P4P Floyd Mayweather Jr Vs Sugar Ray Leonard

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No you can't. Hearns, Benitez, Hagler and Duran that is huge.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    That was a two-way street. The fight would’ve been made immediately if Pac ditched Bob and Pac was on the wrong side of the drug testing issue.

    I think it would’ve been the same outcome back then and Floyd would’ve been discredited by many like in every other win he got (“Pac was a great fighter but not a great welterweight”).
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    He beat Hearns when he was 22, Hagler when he was shopworn (with gloves, ring size and distance to suit him), he only beat Duran when he was out of shape or ancient, and Benitez isn't that amazing a win.
     
  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look I am not gonna play that game. Anybody's resume can be taken apart.
    These 4 names were better than anybody Floyd faced. And Leonard beat all 4 of them.
     
  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why does Pac get a pass here? Why is Pac not held at fault or partial fault. Why was Pac being afraid of drug testing a sign of Floyd ducking?
     
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  6. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    He doesn't. I said in a previous post it wasn't all Mayweather's fault. I don't think Bob Arum helped and I don't think Pac pushed Arum hard enough to make the fight. But Floyd was the major blocker.
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don’t buy that. Reason: Floyd and most people knew he’d beat Pacquiao based on the Marquez fights. Arum had financial interest in protecting his fighter until he didn’t, which is not coincidentally when the fight was made. It’s an Occam’s Razor view.
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then the word duck should not be used. The fight didn’t happen when it should have, lots of fights don’t (SRL vs Hearns II didn’t either), does not make it a duck
     
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  9. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This really isn't fair to Floyd. The fight was on but they couldn't agree on the date to drug test, basically 10 days difference killed the fight along with 2 big EGOS in my book .. 50/50 fault imo.
     
  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    IMO they both deserve some blame for not making it happen
     
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  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow that would be a fair and consistent way to evaluate things....hmmmm maybe it will catch on
     
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  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...nson-duck-charley-burley.259274/#post-7931537
     
  13. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRL - Top 10-15 ATG
    FMJ - Top 25-30 ATG
     
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  14. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who are the 24-29 you have above him?
     
  15. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WW SRL was devastating against Dave "Boy" Green in a 4 rd K.O. I would not be surprised in a similar result.
    What is Floyd going to do....attack SRL....whose is faster and hits harder at WW?
     
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