P4P Greatest of all Time, top 5

Standards of living; social standards are generally what drive people to push that much more to overcome adversity negating what you insinuate - I note Johnson and Ali in particullar here through the mid 1980's and Irish / Italian immigrants before them.

This is also why currently the Russians who have a worse standard of living than black americans are dominating the HW divisions right now and is why America may not see another black HW for a while.

Struggle breeds determination.

 

hey im a joe calzaghe fan and he beat up his black opponents. Greb fought 2 major black opponents and they both beat him. If they can, why cant hagler.

Another thing, this sweet pea moron hasnt seen any of those fights, hes basically arguing paper resume over fighters that we have seen on film. Hes giving extra wins for greb and most of these newspaper decisons, are whta the opionions of a pittsburgh reports that claim greb is robbed half the time.

Imagine if joe calzaghe fought 200 times and the only knowledge we had on him was from a welsh newspaper reporter, o boy he would get mythical just like harry ****in greb.

 

Greb fought Flowers when at the end of his career and half blind you fool. He died not long after.atsch

And who the **** are you to talk paper resume? You're the douchebag who brings up resume in head to head fantasy matches.

"Pacquiao has a better resume than Calzaghe, he'd beat him", and other useless ****. You have no analytical skills when it comes to fantasy matchups anyway, and we're not talking about that are we, we're talking strictly resume here you tool. God you're such a twat.

 

since when do you bring up analytical skills.

Pernell says he beat medlrick in sparring, so i believe him and thats why he would beat him, lol, thats your analytical skills right.

Every time greb losses, the pittsburgh post cries robbery, does this not seem kinda fishy to you at all you moron, are you that stupid not to relaize that its a bias towards greb.

legally blind does not mean that you actually cant see you dumb****.

 

Their records against then ranked top 10 fighters by The Ring, or champions:

Charles: 40-17-1

Robinson: 45-15-1 (38-3 before his 1952 retirement)

 

Look you stupid degenerate ****** ******lol: ), I analyze fights because I have the ability to look at two fighters styles and gel them, at least to a respectable degree. You're the idiot who brings up resume and is always on about how the fighter with the greater resume wins. That shows no analytical skills.

I have given my analysis on Whitaker vs Taylor every time they are brought up. You're the schmuck who thinks Camacho beat up Whitaker in sparring when everyone associated with the incident said Whitaker schooled him.

And these so called biased cards by the Post also talk a lot of how he was beaten severely, and how some feel he was the loser on decisions he won, and I don't just read what the post says you moron, I read the overall consensus opinion on the fights, not just what one article says. Seriously, where the **** do you get your bull**** info from?

You must be the stupidest son of a ***** alive.

 

Charles top wins>Robinson's top wins.

 

I see Sweet Pea has the Harry Greb thing covered. He has to be up there. Nobody has a better resume in my opinion.

 

Ali #1 alltime

 

Well, according to Brownwhore, his lack of black opponents keeps him away from the top spot, regardless of being the only man to beat Gene Tunney, and doing so while being much the smaller man.

 

Ali
Ray Robinson
Hagler
RJJ
Ray Leonard

honourable mention

Archie Moore
Joe Louis
Julio ceser chavez
Thomas Hearns
Carlos Monzon

 

Up there, but unluckly for him he was in the era of the No-Decision, thus it is very hard to judge what fights were on the level and which were not. Plus he die young...

 

Which means nothing, as his career was already over.

 

Well no, he was still fighting until his death, he missed out on the final part of his career, which can help define a fighter and answer a few remaining questions.

 

I thought we'd settled this.....like months ago.