p4p-GSP or Anderson Silva?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by brandon9624, Feb 22, 2009.


  1. brandon9624

    brandon9624 Member Full Member

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    Let's settle this once and for all. Everyone agrees Fedor is #1 right now, but who's #2, GSP or Anderson Silva.
    I think GSP's beatings of Hughes was sort of a changing of the guard in the welterweight division, and he's a great fighter, but my vote's for Silva. I think he'll retire undefeated in the UFC (not counting Pride losses), no matter if he fights MW or LHW.
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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  3. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GSP is easily the more complete fighter and probablly has the better resume but in the last 4 years Anderson Silva has been untouchable and killing everyone while we have seen GSP tapping to a natural Lightweight gatekeeper less then 24 months ago.
     
  4. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    I agree, that loss put's him just behind Silva, although GSP has avenged both his losses and brutally I might add.
     
  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes indeed he has but watching him get battered then tap when the going got tough keeps him behind Silva for now. WTF is it with GSP and pain dude look like he was tapping before Hughes even totally hit the armbar he didnt even try to defend it or even wait that 0.4 secounds left in the round same with at Grappling match I seen him in once the dude didnt even extend him hips on a armbar yet and GSP was tapping hell even in the 1st BJ fight he considered qutting damn you lost the 1st round but it wasnt bad you got blood on you so what.
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I dont know about more complete. Better Wrestler yes, but BJJ Id have to give to Anderson Silva. Just being in Silvas guard is a problem in itself (body lock, triangles, Upkicks, elbows). Forget standup, its no contest. The scary part is Silva sprawl is getting better.

    As far as resume, its tough..I remember Franklin being held up to number 2 p4p status just two years ago and against Silva, hes a can. Its hard to build a resume when youre Silva.. Guys like Lee Murray becomes very ordinary very quickly.
     
  7. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why split hairs they are both good fighters. :happy

     
  8. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    GSP.

    no question.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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  10. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    He said it that he wont risk an injury that would never recover to 100 percent if he know he cant espace a submission, or he wouldnt risk a knock out like vs Serra. Some would say he is a *****, some would say he is intelligent.
     
  11. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree 100%. People say the MW division is ****. That's bollocks. Silva is just that good that he blew everyone away. And he'd do the same if he was any other weight. Luckily some good competition is coming through now.
     
  12. Boinko

    Boinko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I call this one a dead heat. Good arguments can be made for either guy.
     
  13. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    It really is pretty simple.

    Before Silva, The Middleweight was a competitive division with a Marquee Champ Franklin. Now Franklin had just beaten Tanner, Loiseau, Quarry (good fighters) with ease!

    Now Silva comes along and he finishes Rich with the same ease. I mean he just stroked a broad brush right there. Meaning If he beats Franklin with ease!. What would he do to the fighters Franklin beat with ease??

    Unfortunately, MMA MAth doesnt work with Silva, he is outside this equation. He is that good, everyone is ordinary.

    Case in point. Leites and Alves..compare them. Pretty equal. Leites, talented BJJ good standup. Alves, talented Striker, good BJJ. Pretty much the same level of competition , same records.

    Alves vs. GSP. Interesting..Next Big Fight

    Silva vs. Leites.. not a great card, too one sided for a main event. The UFC cant even hype this fight.

    Theres why Silva is higher
     
  14. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Alves and Leites are not pretty equal. Just no.In fact, Alves could move up to MW and knock Leites the **** out. Why do you think it would be a next big fight? Because Alves has been stopping people right and left. People see him as a guy who can knock GSP out.
    How can UFC hype Leites to knock or sub A.Silva, whos on another level?
    Leites? his biggest win is a fight he didnt even won and was controversial.
     
  15. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol, yup. Terrible main event. If Leites wins it'll be worse than GSP losing to Serra.