P4p Head to head, top 10 boxers ever?

Ray Robinson
Whitaker
Jones Jr
Armstrong
Duran
Ray Leonard
Pep
Ali
Hagler
Hearns

 

Of fighters I've seen fight my list is something like:
SRR
Pep
Duran
Sal Sanchez
SRL
Ali
Armsrtong
Joe Luis
Holyfield
Serafim Todorov

 

Armstrong
Robinson
Ali
Duran
Arguello
Leonard
Whittaker
Jones
Mayweather
Pacquaio

 

Robinson
Ali
Pep
Duran
Gomez
Louis
Foreman
Monzon
Jones
Whitaker

 

H2H ATG's that I've seen fight:

Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Muhammad Ali (I favor him over all the great Hw's- from jack jonson to Sam langford, Dempsey,louis, etc.)
Ray Leonard
Roy jones junior
Roberto Duran
Pernell Whitaker
Willie pep
Hagler
Mayweather

People can ***** all they want about Floyd, but his skillset is on the same level of guys like Whitaker, pep and Benny Leonard. I truly believe he would've been dominant in any era,however I also think he would've stayed away from the WW division anytime between the 1930's to the 1980's as back than there were some really big and strong WW's fighting in that period of time.

I think he would've fought only at FW and LW in most eras, and honestly when you watch him between 2001-2005, he was the complete package. Outside of Benny Leonard, I don't give anyone better than a 50-50 chance in beating him at 126 or 135 if he's in prime shape and devoid of any injuries.

 

I could have floyd in there not sure who I would take out though

 

Because when you dominate not 1 but 2 ATG's in your weight class in their prime like it was a sparring match, that says it all. Not forgetting that feat of MW-HW. And you could argue Bernard was green, but not as green as people may think.

Also H2H against particular styles, ie come forward pressure fighters, Pac is right up there. I can't see any opponent in history around his weight who had a pressuring style beating him, that includes Armstrong. Counterboxers though...well I could see someone like Pernell frustrating him and obviously much bigger WW's like SRL beating him.

I also agree with Floyd being top 10 H2H, not many fighters his weight class beat him. Duran is a toss up, SRL would but he's a much bigger guy, same as Hearns. Chavez is 50/50, he could do what Taylor did except not get KTFO, but then again Chavez is twice the fighter Castillo ever was. I see him beating Whitaker, more tools.

 

But proven steroid cheats like Jones Jr are acceptable I presume.

Yeah right.

 

There is a simple explanation. These freaks are just blind love fan boys. Jones can cheat by hitting downed opponents, cheat by taking drugs, get KTFO by journeymen OLDER than him, talk about fighting any fighter he likes but have zero intention of ACTUALLY fighting ANY of them, and these imbeciles will swallow it, because that is what imbeciles are there for. To be treated like scum ,and made to part with their money.

The joke is on them not on Jones, he has had their money and blown it. Which is why he is still hawking his pathetic self around the world to get punched for chump change whilst the clever fighters are at home counting their money.

 

ITs not hard to be a great fighter and LOOK sensational vs. Bums. Everyone of floyds fights, guys like Whitaker, De La Hoya, Mosley, Trinidad etc would have beat every one of them also.

 

Jones didn't need roids, he's by far the best natural athlete boxing has ever seen. He may have done juice for his move up to heavy but he didn't need that **** when he schooled prime Hopkins and Toney. Those 2 names alone trump Floyds whole resume.

 

:rofl

Pretty ironic coming from you.

 

Not sure how anyone can include Roy Jones in such a list when he never fought a savage puncher, never fought THE champion in any weight class he was in and we know his Chin is below mediocre. Not to mention he was a convicted PED cheat. Those attributes would not hold up well in a fight with other legit ATG's.

Do some of you think he would look like he did against Grant, Kelly, Frazier, Hall, Gonzalez, etc against guys like Hagler, Louis, etc.? :-(

 

This is coming from a guy who lists Joe Calzaghe p4p the guy can't even throw a proper punch and didn't even crack the p4p lists until later in his career and never fought anyone in their prime worth mentioning. Yeah your real credible

 

FlOYD! :good:bbb