P4P Klitschko???

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  1. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not complaining.
    I'm just saying making a list for p4p is to showcase the other weights and not the heaviest weight of them all.

    Like, p4p this guy is the best boxer.
    Still, he'll lose to a heavyweight.

    If there was only 1 weight in boxing there wouldn't be a p4p list.
    The heaviest and best guy Wlad would be without a doubt the best boxer in the world.
    BUT, p4p the smaller boxers are just as good.
    That's my take on "p4p" anyhow.
     
  2. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's two ways of looking at it.

    The first way is success. Wlad gets rated p4p becasue he has not lost in like forever. You have to give him credit for that. Wlad is tremendously successful and deserves his p4p spot base don that criteria.

    The second way is to think of the p4p as a way of throwing size out of the equation. This is the traditional way of thinking when they first made the p4p label. Think of the p4p as a skill to size ratio. The more size you have, the more skills you would need to be considered p4p. If you took Wlad and shrunk him down to Mayweather size and had him retain the same skill set, he'd be a pretty awful fighter. It's hard to rate highly in the traditional p4p sense when your main attribute is that you are bigger than most everyone.
     
  3. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends if he kept the same skillset does he keep his power if that is the case he wipes the floor.
     
  4. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that Wladimir Klitschko is p4p #1 because he has been fighting the best opponents for many years. Not only is he wins but also he dominates. I don't see anyone else deserving to be at that spot at this point.
     
  5. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Having Wlad #2 is perfectly fine. A lot of people put Chocalatito #2 fork dominating perceived weak divisions so why not Wlad, who's been doing it longer?
     
  6. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Just think of it like this. The HW division is garbage, it has been for several years now. It's been dominated by American trained fighters far too long yet lacking in entertaining value.

    The skill in the HW division is so abundantly bad that it's laughable seeing a big goofy mother ****er like Fury swinging his chunky milky arms and someone like Wilder who barely knew how to jab not too long ago.

    If these fighters were the same size and fought at 147, they'd all get humiliated and knocked out. Their SIZE and POWER is what makes them unique. Imagine Klitschko trying to do one of his infamous Octopus grabs on someone like Mayweather. That'd be some funny **** to see.
     
  7. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is not like Mayweather doesn't grab, DirtyDan.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes.
     
  9. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Of course Mayweather grabs. He's done it multiple times, mostly to disrupt the fighters rhythm and to recover.

    Klitty does his octopus grabs because he fears someone touching his chin. After getting knocked out by Brewster, Klitty was left traumatized and contemplating retirement. Luckily grandpa Manny showed him the ways of the Kronk American fighting style.

    Either way, those octopus grabs only work on midgets. Instead of the Klitschko death grip, he could learn how to throw a proper uppercut. Nobody in the HW division is big and skilled enough to deflect it though.
     
  10. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And because anyone worth a sneeze has been built into "the man who can finally beat Floyd Mayweather" for the last 10 years.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course Amnat Ruenroeng's number one fan would have that opinion.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, that's just weird that you keep saying that.

    The guys you are describing were all on Eurosport. In Europe. We watched them. Possibly, opinions were corrupted by the Eurosport guy telling us a lot of them were **** :lol:

    Chagaev, obviously, is an exception. But these fights ARE on TV, just not in America, and it's not like the British and British press have a different sense of the HW division. The idea that "if they were on HBO" people would say otherwise is parochial in the extreme.
     
  13. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Wlad is better than Khan in every way, put him in a Corrales body frame, he would be an ideal style to spoil Mayweather.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You know you all wait for Americans to tell you what to think.:yep
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah I know, I'm just messing with him.