P4P Klitschko???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Proud Warrior, Jun 19, 2015.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Mostly, it's the opposite. Certainly not with European heavies.

    Either way, for most of the world it doesn't matter who's on HBO.
     
  2. CST80

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    You know I have somewhat of a point, the HW has been dead for years in the eyes of most fans here and in the UK, and now all of a sudden, we have Wilder and you all have Joshua and Fury and the HW is starting to look good to us, its an inherent bias that probably isn't even consciously realized by most fans. Eastern Europeans are far less appealing to the West, especially the ones who lack personality like Wlad, Sasha, Chagaev, Pulev, Ibragimov, Valuev, Vitali etc, Kovalev and GGG have personalities to go along with their KO records so they appeal more to a lot of people.
     
  3. McGrain

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    I can't really understand your post, but the HW division is regarded generally as being very poor by British press. It's seen as a weak division. Bad fighters being on TV doesn't make people think that the division is stronger, it has the opposite affect, is the point.

    Fury is generally seen as a fighter who is not very good. He is ranked, on average, lower by British publications than international ones. Boxing News has him as the #9 HW, for example. Below Tony Thompson.
     
  4. McGrain

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    I have no idea if this is true or not, I just know that CST's implication that Fury has somehow excited Britain to the HW division is rubbish.
     
  5. CST80

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    It doesn't matter what position Fury has in the rankings, the fact that ne puts himself out there and trash talks that gets people interested and makes the fans care more, that can clearly be seen with the uptick in fan support of him on message boards, regardless of what the Brit press has to say. I'm referring to the emotional component of the sport, the perception people have of the HW division and because there are a few new American and Brit heavies on the scene that's making fans care just a little bit more about it.

    Many fights in the 80's and 90's were dull yet with the proper build up, it made people care no matter what, in spite of the reality that the HW Division has always suffered from gassed out big guys hanging on each other for rounds on end, people still tuned in for a HW event. The lack of personality a lot of EE guys have exposed the division as the slightly dull division its always been.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    If Povetkins last three fights were shown here on US tv on a prime time slot, there would certainly be more buzz.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Yeah, he's on the telly so he'll definitely get attention on Twitter and stuff. But in Britain people believe the HW division is weak. Because it is weak. This is regardless of the presence of Fury and the prospect Anthony Joshua. Although there are definitely very high hopes for him.

    It's a bad division and if Manuel Charr had been on HBO fighting Taras Bidenko and Danny Williams, it would stil be a bad division.
     
  8. McGrain

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    I agree with this. Povetkin is a quality fighter. It is also true that Chagaev could have caused a bit of buzz before he did his Achilles. But generally, naw.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    Good match making on tv is everything.
     
  10. McGrain

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    Hard to think of a bigger missed opportunity than May-Pac under-card.
     
  11. DirtyDan

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    Lol, no he's not and no he wouldn't, wtf? :rofl What exactly is Klitty gonna do to spoil Mayweather? The guy can't even throw an uppercut... :rofl:lol:

    And no, what makes Klitty better than Khan? One solely relies on his speed, the other on his height and grabs.
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    I agree completely.

    Povetkin /Perez on the undercard of that could have been a real winner.
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    The same things Wlad does to spoil anybody shorter than him, regardless of their skill set, speed, talent..etc. It would be the same as Hearns/Mayweather.

    You don't know anything if you think Wlad is just a tall guy that grabs. Wlad's foot work, jab, left hook, and ring IQ is among the best of all time, his overall speed at his physical peak was elite, and his timing and punch parrying makes it near impossible to find his chin. He perhaps Stewart's best pupil, even better than Hearns. Put Wlad in a Paul Williams/Corrales body frame and it would be very interesting to see how effective he would be.
     
  14. GolovKing

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    Pound for pound should take into consideration both resume AND head to head factor. My opinion anyhow. Its subjective. Wlad top 5 pfp. GGG and Crawford are top 12 material in mind.
     
  15. RememberingC.S.

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    Obviously not.

    As a clear definitive proof, just look at all the popularity and consensus Wildest has racked up by facing stiffs and cans.

    If he was undisputed, forums wouldn't be talking about anything else but his "athleticity, fastness, power, skills, etc. etc etc." :yep