P4P Kostya Tszyu vs Felix Trinidad

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  1. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    you talk like KT was a journeyman! he was P4P 3rd in his prime, first fighter in 30 years to Unifi light welter divison 5 years wbc champ!, wins over some really good fighters a amature record of 259 wins and 11 loses, way better
     
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  2. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    C-Hop you never responded to me?
     
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  3. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who's on his FREAKING resume to be putting him up there with Tito

    Vince Philips
    Zab Judah
    Chavez (washed up version)
    Ricky Hatton
    Sharmba Mitchell

    NO DLH
    NO Mosley
     
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  4. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Well he lost to Vince Phillips & Ricky Hatton so you can't put them up there.
     
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  5. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trinidad is a greater fighter, and yes, a better p4p fighter.

    To assume he would blow threw Tszyu in a few rounds in a mythical p4p match, shows a lack of knowledge on Tszyu.

    Trinidad close UD.

    If, however, Tszyu moved up and fought Trinidad at 147 in real life (i.e. NOT p4p), Trinidad wins easier. Perhaps by KO.
     
    KO Boxing, Aug 19, 2008
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  6. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    So a guy who can't take vince phillips best for 12 or Ricky Hatton's best shots for 12 is going to be able to take Felix Trinidad's best for 12 rounds? Bigger stronger men couldn't but all of a sudden Kosta is going to be able too?
     
    Ring Master, Aug 19, 2008
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  7. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps. If we're talking about a p4p match up (i.e. Tszyu at 140 at his best vs. Trinidad at 147 at his best - but somehow even weight) then I'd tip Trinidad by close UD.

    Using the Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton fights to try and show that Tszyu doesn't have a granite chin shows me that perhaps I know a little more about Tszyu than you do.

    Still, I've tipped Trinidad. Who gives a **** if I think he stops him or not (which I said he would if Tszyu had moved up to 147 in real life to fight a prime Trinidad).
     
    KO Boxing, Aug 19, 2008
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  8. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    but in a mythical matchup im trying to judge both fighters on them in the ring, im never undermining titos in ring ability but his power i felt was more at use during welterweight than middleweight, he was a strong fighter , but his jab still doesnt have the same speed as kostya's or the accuracy, tito had developed into a better fighter but so did kostya , he showd more aggression and determination after his defeat then he actully fought a fighter same hight and better reach than trinidad and Ko'd him in 5 (Diosbelys Hurtado)(not saying there the same fighter but just trying to shed some light on size not been evreything when judging fighters)
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Tszyu.
     
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  10. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Oh please share your immense knowledge of Kosta with the rest of us. I'm intrested to know who Kosta went 12 with that carried the kind of power Tito did, one of the most devasting punchers in WW history?
     
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  11. Ring Master

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    Well I was saying Tito skill wise actually regressed as a fighter. He was more versatile when he was younger.

    Size is not everything but trinidad is 10x the fighter Hurtado was and style wise it was a problem b/c I remember Tszyu getting dropped twice(one was more of a slip if i remember correctly) but skinny ass hutado in NOOOO way compares to Trinidad.
     
    Ring Master, Aug 19, 2008
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  12. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    actully

    in his 4th fight he fought former wbc champ Juan Laporte
    beat former world junior welterweight champ roger mayweather
    other former world champs galvin grove and rafeal ruelas
    and mexican legend Julio Cesar Chavez
    Top unbeaten ibf champ zab judah

    quite a lot more to mention but still credible as a great fighter not some journeyman , feels a shame people cant overlook greatness because of 2 exeptional performances from fighters to actully beat kostya and put L's on his record
     
    C HOP, Aug 19, 2008
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  13. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Tito.
     
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  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    IM TALKING REAL LIFE...IF THEY FOUGHT AT A CATCHWEIGHT OF 145LBS TITO STILL BEATS HIM..KOSTYA COULDNT BE ANYTHING ABOVE 140LBS...HED BE FIGHTING BIGGER MEN AND HE WOULD BE KOD..HES 1 OF THE BEST ALL TIME AT 140...BUT PUTTING HIM AGAINST A WW IS STUPID...ESPECIALLY 1 LIKE TITO
     
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  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    CALM DOWN NOW...PAST HIS PRIME JCC...
     
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