P4P list..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Chicano, Oct 23, 2019.


  1. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ok

    You can take him out but who do u add?

    Hes been champ for years KOing guys

    Let me assume you put in Beterbiev

    A win over Gvozdyk is about equal to a win over Luis Ortiz
     
  2. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Gvozdyk’s victory over Stevenson by far surpasses anything Ortiz has done.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Stevenson is a light heavyweight Ortiz.
     
  4. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Why because he’s black and a southpaw? Because outside of that and then both being from the Caribbean they are nothing alike.

    Stevenson as much as I detest him has a far better resume than Ortiz.
     
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  5. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Luis Ortiz was old and he had stamina for 6 rounds when he fought Wilder. Gvozdyk is younger than Beterbiev, he was prime and hungry.

    Beterbiev is a more skilled than Wilder and just as powerful - the only difference is that Wilder has explosive power, while the Russian has thudding power, both are destructive.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I never put him on the list, but I could see it. I have a Pac at 4 at 147, so I can’t see pfp for him.
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ortiz actually had more left when Wilder fought him than Stevenson did when Gvoz beat him. He barely lost a round up to that point. Both aged southpaws with big counter lefts and tall.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Artur B :pesas::dancer2::chuck:

    Mine

    1. Loma
    2. Usyk
    3. Crawford
    4. Inoue
    5. GGG
    6. Clenelo
    7. Estrada
    8. Manny
    9. Spence
    10. Beterbiev
     
  9. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac defeated a P4P fighter and top contender in WW in Thurman and you got either Garcia or Porter, or God forbid the person he just defeated, Thurman, above him in WW?
    That's a lot of BS there.
    Not only should Pac be in anybody's top 3 WW, he should be in everybody's top 10 P4P fighter too. It should be painfully obvious to even have to explain this really.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Don’t let your fanboyism get in the way. Thurman looked like **** in the single fight, which was against a journeyman, that he had within years of fighting Pac. Nowhere near any pfp list.

    Porter put work in and Pac would lose to him worse than he did to Horn.
     
  11. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cool story. wins only count if the guy you beat was on a roll prior. Gotcha. You're really a student of the game aren't ya
     
  12. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    1. Usyk
    2) Loma
    3) Canelo
    4) Golovkin
    5) Spence
    6) Crawford
    7) Pac
    8) Beterbiev
    9) Inoue
    10) haven't a ****in cluey

    BJS I firmly believe could've been on this list if he was serious about his career
     
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  13. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thurman was widely recognized as a top 3 WW at the time that he fought Pac. Matter of fact, he had the best resume in WW at the time.
    And I don't know what fight you were watching, but Thurman completely outclassed that journeyman at every second of that fight save for a few seconds in one round.
    Porter just lost.

    You just exposed yourself badly in these boards.
     
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  14. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Loma
    Crawford
    Inoue
    Usyik
    Canelo
    PAC
    Estrada
    spence
    GGG
    Beterbiev
     
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  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LSC is fighting bum after bum, his name shouldn't ever be mentioned in a thread about P4P
     
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