There is 5 fighters i have seen that i really think are some of th best boxers i have ever seen. I just cant see past them. I mean it these guys took my breath away the first time i seen them and they still do. the names are (in alphabetical order as i cant pick a best) Henry Armstrong Roberto Duran Willie Pep Ray Robinson Pernell Whittaker 5 other names i would mention but there could be another 10 that i could mention Jung Koo-Chang Muhammed Ali Ruben Olivares Ezzard Charles Carlos Monzon
For a sheer display of ability, I'd say the Bogs fight, but Bogs wasn't his best opponent by a long way. The Finnegan fights, when Conteh was on the way up, are quality but I'm not sure if they're on youtube. The Lopez fight is one of my favourites - Conteh hurt his right hand but still managed to keep a fighter like Lopez at the end of his jab for the entire fight. The Hutchins KO is top notch as well. He was finished by the time of the rematch with Saad, so I wouldn't pay too much attention to that unless you want to watch Saad dish out a one-sided pasting to a shot fighter.
These are the best fighters I have seen on film Julio Cesar Chavez - He puts his punches together as well as anyone I've seen. His accuracy is amazing, very rarely misses, and he switches to body and head as seamlessly as anyone I've seen too. Underrated defense, he takes a lot of shots on his arms, and he limits the impact of punches by rolling with them at times, and tucking his chin in as he unloads. Great in-fighter, cuts the ring off effortlessly. Orlando Canizales - Perhaps some will feel I'm a bit of a fanboy but I'm really impressed with his footage. I love his variety of his punches, the way he'll turn his jab into an uppercut, and create angles for himself by stepping to the left and right. One of the most supreme counter punches I've seen, his power at Bantamweight was devastating, one of the most underrated fighters on ESB. Some haven't even heard of the guy. Sugar Ray Leonard - One of the most complete. Had power in both hands, his speed was unbelievable, and he could take a really good shot. I wouldn't favor anyone over him at Welterweight other than perhaps Sugar Ray Robinson, and even then I feel the result would very much be in doubt. He proved his skills against some of the best fighters of all time. Muhammad Ali - Before his exile, he was dismantling champions and decent contenders like they were junior sparring partners. His speed was just to much for the Heavyweights, he'd avoid punches simply by moving his head. A little unortodox, but when he did get hit, he showed that he could withstand heavy artillery from even the most lauded of punchers. Shavers, Liston, Foreman, Frazier, and the list goes on. All the hype is justified in my judgment. Alexis Arguello - Nobody threw shots with better technique than Alexis Arguello. He could be outboxed, and his speed was nothing spectacular, but he waited for openings and then he'd throw the most beautiful looking punches you'll ever seen. The straight right hand down the pipe damn near killed Kevin Rooney, and his left hook devastated Ray Mancini. Kobayashi will never forget the body shot that almost doubled him over either. He had every shot, and he threw it with perfect accuracy and technique. A great 15 round fighter.
1. 1937 Henry Armstrong Alright, we didn't see him there. But we have impressive later footage and knowledge that he used to be even better. A bit like when none of us had seen the '40s Robinson footage (and even the quality of that leaves a desire for better).
Why do you need to bring up 37? Why not just the dazzling array of footage that exists? I have him at #2 based upon that and it's entirely justified. Guy was awesome.
I haven't seen as much of Louis as perhaps I should have McGrain. I wasn't saying they were better than Louis, the just impress me every time I watch them work. I'll be frank. I know **** all about the sport in comparison to some of you. There's a 100 fighters that I've still yet to really see and appreciate, Armstrong and Louis included.
Well hunt down some Olivares/Zarate first, because you're going to want to rank them above Canizales in this regard too. I love Canizales too, but come on. You've kind off started backwards in a way though! Refreshing at least.
I've seen a bit of Zarate, and I don't think it's out of the question to consider Canizales a superior offensive fighter. He's just more explosive, has faster hands, and a better more fluid combination puncher in my judgment.
Carbon copy argument using Robinson in '49. I think i'm more comfortable just having Robinson above Armstrong based upon what i've seen...no doubt, though, Armstrong is in his stratosphere (along with how many others...even 15?). Would you rank Louis up there?