P4P: Make a list purely on ability

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  1. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I could have made a top 20 on this one no probs tough call nice thread!
     
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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    some nice picks in there, interesting aswell

    especially Buchanan at 3 and LMR at 2

    also is that Winky Wright at tier 5

    He does seem to break them and yes Tiger was unbreakable. But Carlos was tough aswell, i dont think Monzon broke Briscoe in the rematch he seemed to be punching non stop to keep Briscoe off of him and he did manage. Tiger would keep coming but Monzon has the power to atleast hold him up coming in and giving Monzon some time and Monzon has the movement to offset presure as he would step off while punching.

    Mannassa where do you rate Moores win over Maxim where he completly dominated him? one ATG Light Heavy shutting out another
     
    GPater11093, Nov 25, 2009
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  3. McGrain

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    I think that's reasonable. Getting out-boxed isn't a new experience for Tiger, but what's interesting is being in with someone that LITERALLY won't go away, and is of Tiger's quality is a new experience for Monzon...Tiger is this type of fighter that could get beaten by some odd guys, guys that aren't in his class perhaps, but could also beat guys who are a clear class above...I think Tiger might beat Monzon.
     
    McGrain, Nov 25, 2009
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  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Tiger wont be stopping against Monzon but was Monzon every flapped in the ring he always seemed to take things into his stride. Theres a good chance he could realise he cant break Tiger and will adjust to a more tactical approach. I honestly dontt hink he broke Briscoe but adjusted.

    Interesting that point that Tiger could lose to a guy lesser than him but then he could beat one of the best at the weight and i agree.
     
    GPater11093, Nov 25, 2009
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  5. stevebhoy87

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    Intresting, i think charles v marshall is the most impressive i've seen of either on film, must admit i haven't seen everything of moore avaliable though, any particular fights you'd recommend?
     
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  6. McGrain

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    I think you're probably right, although Tiger brings that extra class...be interesting at the very least. Actually, hard to think of many better fights at the weight for an all in type of affair, tactical, thrilling, technical, style-clash, battle of wills.
     
    McGrain, Nov 25, 2009
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  7. McGrain

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    Charles v Marshall may very well be the tie-breaker, but then again it's ONE performance...Moore looks consistantly better on film, I should say.

    Moore v Maxim for the title is probably the one, the last round is on YouTube on account of GreatA
     
    McGrain, Nov 25, 2009
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Here you go. Moore looks basically impossible to box in this round, the last round of a tough title fight against a very, very good fighter. He's in absolute control at every distance and exhibits every single trick that is in the book that is relevant. Awful, awful fighter to be faced with at that point in a fight.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0oD0OV7br4[/ame]
     
    McGrain, Nov 25, 2009
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  9. stevebhoy87

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    Yeah that probably reasonable, every other fight i have seen of charles he didn't look as good as his performance against marshall. Of course most of that is past prime but so is most of the moore stuff avaliable.
     
    stevebhoy87, Nov 25, 2009
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  10. McGrain

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    Yeah. I unhesitatingly rank Charles above Moore on all lists, but for this one - based purely upon film, I like Moore.
     
    McGrain, Nov 25, 2009
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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    what McGrain said, the Maxim fight for the title seriously impressive

    yeh very interesting. How do you see Hgaler doing vs Tiger?
     
    GPater11093, Nov 25, 2009
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  12. McGrain

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    Marvin wins with the right plan but possibly gets edged out with the wrong plan.
     
    McGrain, Nov 25, 2009
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  13. Seamus

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    Sam Langford, anyone?
     
    Seamus, Nov 25, 2009
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  14. McGrain

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    Not enough quality film to make it viable, I fear, although I do find Sam impressive on what little film i've seen.
     
    McGrain, Nov 25, 2009
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  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    sitting on the fence aint ya?

    it will be a good fight just think Hagler has the skill to 'outbox' Tiger and he has the grittiness, chin, stamina and deterination to hang it out when it gets tough. But like you say if Hagler dosent box it will be an amazing fight but he might lose it
     
    GPater11093, Nov 25, 2009
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