P4P Number 1 - Mayweather or Pacquiao

I hate to say it but i think after last night it's PBF.

 

....that said, I think Mosely could potentially beat Floyd. And Pac would take out Mosely.

But Pac Versus Floyd? Pac wouldn't be able to connect.

....I guess it's just different styles. Go figure.

 

Pacquiao was #1 before last night. I don't think beating up a Lightweight is a good enough reason to put Mayweather back on top.

That said, I think Cotto will beat Pacquaio, so Mayweather will ascend to the top stop soon enough.

I'll be interested to see what The Ring do...

 

wait till they meet. if pacquiao beats mayweather he will be something very special. i read a boxing writer say that he thinks mayweather is one of the few boxers who could hold his own against atg's from the past. he is multi-generational

 

De La Hoya? What was so great about winning 8-4 over De La Hoya? Mayweather basically pickpocketed his way to a decision.

Pacquiao has beat Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. I don't buy all the excuses and apathy towards some of those victories.

 

Cotto is gonna get flattened by Pacquiao :good

Then Pacquiao is gonna get flattened by Floyd :good

Thats if Arum lets the fight go ahead !

 

Won't be much different to the fight last night. Manny is no bigger than JMM. Personally all I want to see is Pac/JMM rubber match, and Mayweather fight a legit welter like Cotto or Mosley. Unless Pac does somehow actually manage to beat Cotto, and then Pac-Mayweather becomes a more attractive prospect.

 

TFFP - I know Oscar wasn't the hardest target out there at LM but you must give Floyd some credit for that. That was the closest Floyds come to adversity and he ended up dealing with it pretty easily in the end.

Oscar has a granite chin, Floyd isn't a heavy puncher and the fight was a step up in weight for Floyd. Why would anyone have expected him to do anything else but pick-pocket him.

I must have been the only person I know who could have gauranteed it was gonna be a pretty boring fight !

 

Floyds win over Oscar was very good imo, Oscar weighed in at 154 aswell which makes it more impressive. And there wasnt any huge evidence he was shot beforehand, just inactive.

 

DLH was an old and inactive, part time fighter at this point, and it was more or less even after 8 rounds. Mayweather didn't win the fight, DLH just got tired and abandoned his jab and lost it, was a pretty unimpressive performance by the pretty boy, IMO. Two of the judges scored the last round to DLH, if the third judge had given the 12th to DLH, it would have been a draw.

 

I give him about the same credit as I give Pacquiao. I take the weight into account but the fact is Pacquiao actually went in there to destroy. He's a destroyer and thats what he does. De La Hoya couldn't even get started whereas Mayweather gave him every opportnity to get comfortable, jab a little, let some combinations go, but Mayweather when he wanted to was easily in control. So it wasn't a great performance by his standards because he showed he could have won easily had he been inclined.

Pacquiao has the better wins IMO, the fact a former flyweight would be considered Mayweather's best win speaks volumes, his rise has been incredible. Pacquiao started at fly and is now fighting at welterweight and Mayweather started at junior lightweight and is now a welterweight. Therein lies the big difference and why its not so simple as to say 'Mayweather beats him so he's better'.

 

I agree with you on Pac, he's most definitely there on merit. His rise has been astonishing.

Win or lose from now on what he's achieved is just incredible, and the improvement in him over the years has been a joy to see.

 

Yeah, but Mayweather held all the advantages over his last two opponents - Hatton had to move up in weight, JMM had to really move up in weight. Pacquiao beat Hatton and JMM at their weights making it a much more even playing field, as well as looking more impressive in beating ODLH and Hatton, where Pacquiao was the 'smaller' man.

Pacquiao is number 1 for me still.

 

i think pound for pound, if the two were the same weight from birth till they met in the ring what mayweather brings cancels out what pacquiao brings imo. he is the consumate boxer

 

He didn't hold the advantges. PEople made up advantages to hate on him.

Hatton is a bigger fighter who fought at 147 before and he agreed to a lower weight. Plus Hatton ducked him at 140 so it's his fault that Floyd had grown.

JMM moved up in weight but is the 2nd best p4p fighter. he went even with pac and pac moved up in weight to dominate a bigger man than floyd.

pac fought hatton and jmm at those weights cos he was such a big guy himself.

floyd beat better versions of hatton and dlh though. floyd showed hatton could be ko'd and he showed again that a small man can beat dlh, especially a weight drained dlh.

i'm not hating on pac, i'm reasoning because people are being stupid in their assessments of floyd and pac.