p4p-pacquiou and calzage

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jatt1, May 27, 2009.


  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's way more reasonable than having him as one of the greatest 15 fighters to lace up the gloves.
     
  2. jatt1

    jatt1 New Member Full Member

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    thats a fair point but people on here saying outside top 100 is also not realistic!
     
  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Calzaghe anywhere between 80-100

    Pacquiao - Top 30 easily.
     
  4. Thread Stealer

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    No it's really not that unrealistic.

    There's been a lot of terrific fighters in boxing history.

    I'd have to do a lot more research to come up with a definitive list but a quick guess is that Calzaghe would be in the 75-100 range.
     
  5. MaliSlamusrex

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    I would have him top 50 if he would have beaten Trinidad and Ottke, but he fought for cash... which if fair enough.

     
  6. monjay

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    i guess this is more reasonable than your rank of calzaghe "no 15 at worst":-(
     
  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    You must be joking. :huh
     
  8. catasyou

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    Says the delusional brit was has him at no 15 at worst
    :-(
     
  9. AVFCMagicMan

    AVFCMagicMan Guest

    Yes it is.
     
  10. richard_mcnair

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    Lol top 15.
    calzaghe maybe 100-80 as people have been saying seems about right, although the ones saying outside top 100 have a point. He didnt fight the best opposition, and that hurts him in the ATG standings, as it does someone like PBF.
     
  11. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that is the problem with a majority of British boxing fans....


    Frank Warren knows how stupid and ignorant our fans are.

    Hence why he gets away with matching his opposition against sub standard human beings and bill them as WOrld Championship fights(WBO+WBU (Hattons Pre tszyu career).

    I have always beleived (pre Froch/Haye era) that our guys get an easier ride to world title and get an even easier ride when they are world champ.



    Its comedians like this poster (CALZAGEH= top 15 ATG) that discredit European boxing.

    Calzaghe isnt even top 100. A guy whos only CREDIBLE elite win vs a 43 year old ...does not warrant being ranked above some particularly great fighters. in the top 100
     
  12. stiga

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    calzage top 100 and pac top 50:happy
     
  13. Thread Stealer

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    I thought Kessler was a career best win for Calzaghe. Kessler may not be an ATG like B-Hop, but he was a good solid champ, undefeated, and in his prime. Calzaghe showed some nice adapability after struggling early on.

    Calzaghe looked terrible against Hopkins and basically won because he threw more shots within the vicinity of Hopkins, even when most of them missed.
     
  14. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exactly...


    Kessler is Calzaghes career best win....(Naseem Hamed has plently of Kessler calibre wins on his resume)


    is that the critera for getting into an ATG top 100????

    comon...lets not lose our minds here....


    hes an excellent fighter...a supremly consistant fighter for the level he faught at...we give him credit for that....

    but lets not stain the HOF and what an ATG is...

    i
     
  15. zarman

    zarman Guest

    calzaghe will raise within the following years. i say they are both in the 30 - 50 area.