p4p Sweet Pea vs Pretty Boy @135

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The most accurate according to the very flawed CompuBox(which hasn't been around forever mind you) in regards to his lesser competition and lower workrate.

    I'd take that stat with a grain of salt.
     
  2. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll take that one.

    Mayweather has a superior defense in his favor. Whitaker uses mostly torso movement and being fleet of foot. Mayweather can match Whitakers speed of movement, both upperbody and footwork, but also masterfully utilizes the shell defense. He takes the edge here.
     
  3. Bazooka

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    Whitaker wins 8-4 maybe 7-3 but I think that style will give Floyd more problems then he has ever faced, Floyd is a defensive fighter, Whitaker wrote the entire book on fighting that way, and Floyd hasnt much experience with guys like this so IMO he will be lost in the headlights, a rematch I think Floyd would make adjustments but Whitaker would win the first for sure.
     
  4. JM22

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    Sweet pea takes it this guy was just a f......boxing wizard.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    He doesn't have the defensive edge. His ability to slip punches with upper body movement isn't even on Pea's level. He utilizes the shoulder roll, Pea utilizes upper-body and head movement, which also makes him more offensively capable at the same time.

    They have different defensive styles in general. Floyd's better at the shoulder roll because that's his style, Pea rarely if ever even did it.
     
  6. Alo2006

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    Mayweather didn't have to adapt until moving up in weight after 135. Mayweather also had great workrate at 130 and 135. With some of your answer about Mayweather at this weight would further let me believe u have not seen much footage of him at these weights. Mayweather had good power at 130 and 135.
     
  7. Alo2006

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    Once again, I'm speaking on his workrate at 130 and 135 which was very good. U speak of the WW Mayweather. Big difference here.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    Please don't provoke me with bull**** statements like the one bolded.

    Mayweather had good power at 130, normally based on accuracy and accumulation, not raw force. Pea is the one who holds the more devastating KO's against solid competition in his favor, even if Floyd had more(mostly against smaller opponents at 130 mind you).

    Floyd didn't have to adapt to top fighters until he hit higher weights because he wasn't facing the best of opposition aside from the likes of Castillo, and we saw the trouble he had with a poor man's Chavez, or a Jose Luis Ramirez type. We also saw the success Pea had against those types.

    Floyd was better at 130 than at any other weight, but what does that have to do with this matchup at all? This is at LW, where he looked mediocre against Castillo in the first fight only to fight on his bicycle and win the rematch in an 8-4 type decision by pot-shotting. Sorry, but he didn't prove all that much past 130, that's just fact.
     
  9. aj415

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    Right. But Mayweather's defense results in less blows landing. Look at thier two most similar fights. Mayweather vs Castillo and JCC vs. Whitaker. Whitaker is caught more often to the head then Mayweather, because Whitaker even though he has unwordly head movement can't make EVERY punch miss like this. Floyd on the other hand has exceptional reflexes but doesn't need to make every punch miss because of his defensive style, and is not caught as often.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    You're going to attempt to say that Mayweather performed better against Castillo than Pea did against Chavez(who happened to be about two levels ahead of Castillo as a fighter)?
     
  11. Ring Master

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    Well actually Floyd has 3 different types of Defense.

    1)The Shoulder roll
    2)High guard, he used it against Zab when he realized Judah had the hand speed advantage and needed to adjust.
    3)Movement, the best display of this was against Diego Corrales. left-left right-right in and out with quick combo's. Some of the best footwork I have seen.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    He fought 4 fights at LW for ****'s sake! What he did he prove there except that he'd be troubled by a fighter like Castillo who was a level below any great?

    And his workrate was hardly top-notch in the rematch, which he resorted to sticking, moving, and pot-shotting in.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    Aside from the Corrales fight at 130 and the Castillo II fight, I haven't seen excellent footwork from Floyd that would lead me to believe he'd fare well in that regard against most top pressure fighters.

    He was great at 130, noone's disputing that. We're talking about him at 135 here.
     
  14. TommyV

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    This match-up has been done to death.

    Sweet Pea SD, though he wins a clear 8-4 decision.
     
  15. Ring Master

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    Castillo was at 135 and Corrales was 147 pounds on fight night.