p4p Sweet Pea vs Pretty Boy @135

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  1. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Considering Mayweathers resume at 135, pernell is a favorite.

    But style wise, i somehow see mayweather giving a tough fight.

    Pernell SD.
     
  2. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    I give it to Mayweather! I'm a big fan of both guys and so my opionion won't be bias!

    At 135lb both guys were great, but Floyd hit harder, was faster, and just as defensive. I wish ppl would stop reffereing to the 1st Castillo fight as if it was the only one and as if Floyd was injured! Even so Castillo and Pea are two different fighters.

    Here's how I think it would go...

    I think the 1st 3 rds they would spend adjusting to eachothers speed. Here Pea would be in w/someone faster which was never the case in any of his previous fights whereas Floyds been there w/someone as fast and way more explosive than Pea in Judah and proved he could adjust! It would prolly go back and forth.

    Rds 4-7 I think they would start to try and establish there game plans including throwing more body punches, and taking more chances. By the end of 7rds it could be 4-3 to either fighter.

    The last 5rds are why I think Floyd would actually win. Floyd is more accurate although he throws less punches. Pea certainly will be throwing as far as landing more,...I doubt it and if so I thing Floyd will be landing the harder, more significant punches. IMO Floyds a better counter puncher, and his body punching is very underrated Here's where ppl might get offended,..Floyd isn't/wasn't as hittable as Pea was. Pea would look real flashy at times embarrasing his opponents, but that would not happen against Floyd. I've watched both fighters careers so I think I can say that w/a sound mind. I think Floyd would get to Pea during those rds and even possibly put Pea an his Ass. I don't think Pea could do that to Floyd. Floyd's conditioning would allow him to stay at Pea, and counter Pea w/hard sharp shots those final 5rds if it went that far. This wouldn't be a battle of defense down the stretch, it would be a battle of who had the better offensive arsenal and that's goes to Floyd IMO! I read someone state that Pea had a higher workrate...he does, and I think that's why he could possibly get Kd because he'd be open to more counters. I doubt Floyd would become aggressive workrate wise, but he'd pick up his pace in an intelligent, tactical way(almost economically). Floyd rarely left openings whereas Pea did often leaving his hands down at times, and a faster Floyd would get to him in the later rds. In these 2 we have fighters where one has more speed, more power, just as defensive, both masterboxers, and one had enough stamina to fight 20rds. I don't see where Pea overcomes that! In order for Pea to outbox Floyd who like I stated is also a masterboxer he'd have to get to him regularly for 12rds w/out getting hit as much in return. It won't happen, and Floyd's speed and power advantage would eventually prevail giving him a UD!

    Just saying Pea's a better boxer don't cut it against Mayweather. Mayweather is just as good in that department. Saying Pea 8-4 is comical to to me.

    Power- Mayweather
    Speed- Mayweather
    Workrate- Whittaker
    Defense- Even
    Stamina- Mayweather
    Ring Generalship- Even
    Accuracy- Mayweather

    Pea's a southpaw which could give Floyd problems in the beginning as far as adjusting, but Floyd would adjust so I don't see it as an advantage. I almost see it possibly being a problem for Pea in the later Rds as Floyd would throw that lighting lead right w/power, and accuracy!

    My opinion folks(like it or not)
     
  3. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good
     
  4. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd by UD.

    Pea's defense and Floyd's defense is about even in effectiveness. But, Floyd's defensive style merits him more chances to land a counter because he's in position to throw them. Don't see Pea opening up much against Floyd as it'll only take a few rounds for him to see that Floyd's accuracy and counterpunching are damn good. So there will be no KDs in my opinion.
     
  5. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    MAyweather straight right hand agaisnt an unorthodox southpaw would make Whitaker look bad in some spots. Mayweather SD.
     
  6. standing 8

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  7. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is the "p4p" really needed in the title? I mean your reference an exact weight class that both fighters have fought at.
     
  8. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    So Castillo is a very good pressure fighter in your opinion?

    What are you trying to say?
     
  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He's about on the level of a Jose Luis Ramirez, at least a level or two below a Chavez. Pea won about 22 of the 24 rounds he fought against Ramirez and about 9 of the 12 he fought against Chavez. Do the math.
     
  10. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Whitaker UD

    9-3ish
     
  11. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    Whitaker would have made floyd look silly. floyd never had a fight in any division with someone who had the quality that whitaker had.
     
  12. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    MAN, I just watched the Whitaker-Chavez fight just this morning for the first time in probably 10 years........:scaredas: .............He was so "herky jerky" but always in total control, AND in position to inflict damage...

    I think him against Floyd would have been a fascinating battle....
    I actually think Floyd would win due to Sweet Pea's propensity to fight in that herky jerky style while I believe Floyd would actually be the aggressor ala the Judah fight and I just THINK the judges would appreciate that more...

    These are 2 defensive wizzes who would obviously make the other's offense look tereible.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The judges from the Chavez fight probably would appreciate Floyd being the aggressor, considering they were willing to give Chavez a draw for it. Competent judges are a different story. And I don't think Mayweather would press the fight, Whitaker was much better at pressing a fight off his jab. A shot to hell version had Tito Trinidad figthing off the backfoot in the early rounds of their bout, I'd love to see Floyd do that.
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Floyd Wins This Boring Fight By Ud Or Sd...either Way He Wins...and There Defense Wasnt Equal...floyd Has Much Better Defense...
     
  15. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Oh so your point was that Floyd's movement against pressure fighters is not as good as pea. Okay, I couldn't put it together. You are responding to so many different posts that sometimes you don't make yourself clear. not a knock on you at all. I just had posted that Floyd had 3 defensive styles and you made and off beat remark without any direction but you were responding to almost everyone in the thread.

    regarding the JLR fights 22 of 24 if pretty bias scoring if i remember correctly the first fight was something like 8-4 in rounds. The second fight i believe pea washed him. Maybe.