P4P The Hardest Hitter In Boxing Today

Miranda's power comes from throwing his entire body into each of his wild haymakers. The closest he's come to a notable stoppage is against an ancient Eastman who had him seriously wobbled before being dubiously stopped himself. His power is hugely overated.

Abraham, on the other hand, can throw short, sharp punches and really hurt a guy, as can Ponce, Haye, Cintron, Marquez etc.

 

to be honest it's pick your poison. somtimes you look at one fighter knokc out another and go he is the hardest puncher to date. then you see another guy come along and hit just as hard then go he hits harder...what happens to the other guy did he not knock his opponant out enough?

 

Wild Haymakers? Your nuts.
What his KO punch of Banks and the one that turned Gibbs around into the ropes. Those were overhand rights that looked like any other punch. The power speaks for itself!

 

i would like to note that david banks-edison miranda fight. banks got up at the count of 9 :roll:

 

so wild haymakers dont make any difference he knocks guys out dont he:think

 

:roll:

Whatever. You can see the KO's of Banks and Gibbs here:

http://panteramiranda.com/multimedia/multimedia.asp

 

Haye.

 

I'm a little harsh, perhaps, but stopping David Banks is hardly the hallmark of a great fighter or a great puncher. As for Willie gibbs, you're shitting me, right? If you need him to prove Miranda's greatness then he's achieved even less than I thought.

 

could be witter.

although a back foot counterpuncher , not very good at setting up his power shots , be it left hand or right hand he has genuine 1 punch power in either hand at world class level.

if you leave your chin out and walk onto 1 from witter you go down hard, not seen anyone walk through witter.

 

We are talking about the one punch power to hurt someone. You dont have to KO the best to be considered the p4p hardest puncher. It is the hurt you can cause another fighter with one punch.

You bet your ass that if Miranda hit any top p4p fighter like he hit Banks, they all would go down. Its just getting the opening and opportunity to make the shot land flush.

 

miranda hit pavlik with a better punch in there fight than he ko`sd banks with.

in about the second or third round pavlik walked miranda into a corner, pavlik then loaded up on a punch but moiranda got of first with a big right hand bomb that caught pavlik coming in walking onto it and pavlik never saw it coming.

pavlik was stunned but regrouped and then carried on punching.

it was a perfectly timed shot/full body torque and it had the fighter coming fowrward onto it to add weight to the shot.

IMO that was a bigger miranda punch than the banks ko.

it happens.
lacy coming into the calzaghe fight beat pemberton by flattening him with a big overhand right in the second round catching pemberton on the temple and knocking him spark out.

in the first round v calzaghe lacy landed the exact same overhand right to the temple on calzaghe who just walked through it.

there will alsways be fighters cabable of taking some fighters power.

 

Unless their name is Arthur Abraham.

For me, a top puncher isn't somebody that can knock over punch bags by swinging their entire body into the punch. It's somebody who can take out top fighters with clean, textbook punches. That's what takes real skill.

Compare my favourite fighter with yours, for example. Haye put Gurov out cold with a single straight right. He stopped a linear champion in Mormeck with a couple of punches. Miranda hasn't stopped anybody of the calibre of either of them, nor are his stoppages a result of good boxing skill. He's a powerful guy, buy he's not proved that he's a P4P puncher yet.

 

Fair enough! :good

But I still dont think Miranda had what it took to deal with Pavlik that night. He hit him clean, but I was there and you could tell his punches lacked the power he normally has. Hopefully one day he will earn a rematch at 168lbs...

 

Please thats cause abraham has short arms, so he can throw more compact punches much easier, he gets less leverage and torque then guys like Pav and Abraham. And whats with the Ponce name drop with short compact punches?

anyways Miranda>Abraham in terms of power.

 

People who say Valero have not seen him fight.

People who say Pavlik wears you down and does not have 1 punch KO power have not seen him fight pre-Taylor and are just regurgitating someone elses (wrong) opinion.