P4P top 10 of the 80's/ 90's/ 00's

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    The thread title is P4P Top 10 of the 80s/90s/00s, which is exactly why I excluded Duran and would also exclude Arguello.

    Well, perhaps I'm punishing Spinks because I believe his 'wins' over Holmes were dubious at best, and as brownpimp88 duly noted, Spinks' resume is hardly the most dominant.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Yacqui Lopez, Marvin Johnson, and Eddie Davis were all top tier LHW's during that era, and Spinks beat them all. Guys like Johnny Davis, Vonzell Johnson, Jerry Celestine, and Mustafa Wassaja were all good contenders as well, and Spinks dominated them all accordingly.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    Because you were basing it on accomplishments during that time period only? That wasn't my personal crtieria, which is why I included them. The Duran that fought Leonard in Montreal was arguably the best fighter during the entire period, so I couldn't exclude him. Arguello was also still doing great things at LW.

    You may have a case with the second Holmes fight, but the first was a legitimate win, and a huge one at that.

    As for the last sentence, that simply isn't true at all. He dominated a very good era of LHW's thoroughly.
     
  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sutherland was a fine fighter...a hell of a lot better then Glenn Kelly or Jesus Ruiz.

    And the light heavies he fought werent just good...they were very good.

    Qawi, EMM, Lopez and Johnson were all excellent.

    That was one of the strongest light heavy eras ever.
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    no one questioned my reasoning :rofl
     
  6. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see what you're saying but you don't seem to lose P4P#1 unless you lose a fight...and given Floyds reluctance to fight the top dogs at 140 and 147 I don't think it's fair to factor that in.

    Had he beaten Kostya, Mosley and Cotto over that period, I'd prob have him in my top 3/4...but he hasn't!!!
     
  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I made the mistake of putting Arguello in at 1st until it was pointed out that his best work wasnt done from 80 onwards - same with Duran... I dont think those 2 deserve a top 10 place if you take away the peak of their careers (AA at 130 & RD at 135, both in the 70s)
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :good Nice to see Michael Spinks getting some love. Criminally underrated.
     
  9. vorapsak2002

    vorapsak2002 Active Member Full Member

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    sanchez and holmes...