P4P Top 10 Official Survey (Poll Closes October 27)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Sep 22, 2010.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Maybe he's that weird guy that refuses to acknowledge the validity of pound for pound and just only lists HW's for everything? Even speed which was weird...remember him?
     
  2. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lemme just make one last revision....
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    where are the results
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Rumsfeld did you release the results yet?
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow, did this poll really close a year ago?
    :lol:

    I'm on it tonight!

    :good
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    OFFICIAL RESULTS

    1. 1102 Sugar Ray Robinson (34)
    2. 677 Harry Greb (7)
    3. 617 Henry Armstrong (2)
    4. 542 Sam Langford (8)
    5. 265 Ezzard Charles
    6. 236 Roberto Duran
    7. 231 Muhammad Ali (1)
    8. 179 Bob Fitzsimmons (2)
    9. 152 Willie Pep
    10. 138 Benny Leonard (1)
    11. 118 Sugar Ray Leonard
    12. 65 Joe Louis
    13. 64 [tie] Pernell Whitaker
    13. 64 [tie] Archie Moore
    15. 46 Joe Gans (1)
    16. 40 Roy Jones Jr.
    17. 30 Mickey Walker
    18. 22 Charles Burley
    19. 20 Tommy Hearns
    20. 19 Barney Ross
    21. 18 Packey McFarland
    22. 17 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    23. 13 [tie] Marvin Hagler
    23. 13 [tie] Sandy Saddler
    25. 12 Salvador Sanchez
    26. 10 Barbados Joe Walcott
    27. 7 Jimmy Wilde
    28. 5 [tie] Rocky Marciano
    28. 5 [tie] Eder Jofre
    28. 5 [tie] Gene Tunney
    28. 5 [tie] Manny Pacquiao
    32. 4 [tie] Julio Cesar Chavez
    32. 4 [tie] Carlos Monzon
    32. 4 [tie] Kid Gavilan
    32. 4 [tie] Jimmy Bivens
    36. 2 Terry McGovern
    37. 1 [tie] Tony Canzoneri
    37. 1 [tie] Alexis Arguello
    37. 1 [tie] Ike Williams
    37. 1 [tie] Jack Johnson
    37. 1 [tie] Evander Holyfield
     
  7. Rumsfeld

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    Here is the distribution of votes.
    TOTAL LISTS MADE - NAME - (1st-2nd-3rd-4-5-6-7-8-9-10)


    55 Sugar Ray Robinson (34 9 7 2 0 1 2 0 0 0)
    47 Harry Greb (7 19 11 6 2 1 1 0 0 0)
    51 Henry Armstrong (2 14 16 12 4 1 2 0 0 0)
    43 Sam Langford (8 4 8 13 4 3 1 1 1 0)
    43 Ezzard Charles (0 0 0 7 14 10 4 3 3 2)
    46 Roberto Duran (0 0 2 1 11 10 6 10 4 2)
    36 Muhammad Ali (1 5 2 1 4 4 4 3 8 4)
    24 Bob Fitzsimmons (2 1 1 3 2 7 4 0 1 3)
    36 Willie Pep (0 0 2 3 2 3 6 9 5 6)
    35 Benny Leonard (1 0 1 0 2 3 4 9 12 3)
    19 Sugar Ray Leonard (0 2 3 0 3 1 2 2 3 3)
    20 Joe Louis (0 0 0 1 1 1 4 5 3 5)
    16 Archie Moore (0 0 1 0 0 5 3 2 4 1)
    10 Pernell Whitaker (0 1 0 4 0 0 0 2 0 3)
    6 Joe Gans (1 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 1 0)
    8 Roy Jones Jr. (0 0 1 0 2 0 2 0 1 2)
    7 Mickey Walker (0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 3)
    9 Charles Burley (0 0 0 0 0 0 3 1 2 3)
    5 Tommy Hearns (0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 2)
    6 Barney Ross (0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 2)
    2 Packey McFarland (0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0)
    3 Floyd Mayweather Jr. (0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0)
    2 Sandy Saddler (0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0)
    3 Marvin Hagler (0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0)
    2 Salvador Sanchez (0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0)
    4 Barbados Joe Walcott (0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 2)
    2 Jimmy Wilde (0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0)
    1 Rocky Marciano (0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0)
    2 Gene Tunney (0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1)
    2 Manny Pacquiao (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0)
    3 Eder Jofre (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2)
    1 Carlos Monzon (0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0)
    1 Jimmy Bivens (0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0)
    3 Julio Cesar Chavez (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2)
    1 Kid Gavilan (0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0)
    1 Terry McGovern (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0)
    1 Tony Canzoneri (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    1 Jack Johnson (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    1 Evander Holyfield (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    1 Alexis Arguello (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    1 Ike Williams (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
     
  8. Rumsfeld

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    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    Total Lists: 55 (98.2%)
    First Place: 34 (60.7%)
    Top Three: 50 (89.3%)
    Top Five: 53 (94.6%)
    Average Points: 19.7

    2. Harry Greb
    Total Lists: 47 (83.9%)
    First Place: 7 (12.5%)
    Top Three: 37 (66.1%)
    Top Five: 45 (80.4%)
    Average Points: 12.1

    3. Henry Armstrong
    Total Lists: 51 (91.1%)
    First Place: 2 (3.6%)
    Top Three: 32 (57.4%)
    Top Five: 48 (85.7%)
    Average Points: 11.0

    4. Sam Langford
    Total Lists: 43 (76.8%)
    First Place: 8 (14.3%)
    Top Three: 20 (35.7%)
    Top Five: 37 (66.1%)
    Average Points: 9.7

    5. Ezzard Charles
    Total Lists: 43 (76.8%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 0 (0%)
    Top Five: 21 (37.5%)
    Average Points: 4.7

    6. Roberto Duran
    Total Lists: 46 (82.1%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 2 (3.6%)
    Top Five: 14 (25%)
    Average Points: 4.2

    7. Muhammad Ali
    Total Lists: 36 (64.3%)
    First Place: 1 (1.8%)
    Top Three: 8 (14.3%)
    Top Five: 13 (23.2%)
    Average Points: 4.1

    8. Bob Fitzsimmons
    Total Lists: 24 (42.9%)
    First Place: 2 (3.6%)
    Top Three: 4 (7.1%)
    Top Five: 9 (16.1%)
    Average Points: 3.2

    9. Willie Pep
    Total Lists: 36 (64.3%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 2 (3.6%)
    Top Five: 7 (12.5%)
    Average Points: 2.7

    10. Benny Leonard
    Total Lists: 33 (58.9%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 2 (3.6%)
    Top Five: 2 (3.6%)
    Average Points: 2.2
     
  9. McGrain

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    Rummy, you restored my faith. Nicely done!

    My first thoughts, Duran a bit to high, Gans and McFarland to low, Jack Johnson wtf. Great top 5, nicely done ESB.
     
  10. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Add My list

    #1 Ray Robinson
    #2 Henry Armstrong
    #3 Ezzard Charles
    #4 Roberto Duran
    #5 Muhammad Ali
    #6 Willie Pep
    #7 Benny Leonard
    #8 Salvador Sanchez
    #9 Kid Gavilan
    #10 Ruben Olivares
     
  11. McGrain

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    :lol: you have no idea how much that is not happening. Interesting list though.
     
  12. the cobra

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    The list kind of falls apart after 15. All of ESB classic, or at least most of it, is represented here though, even the crazy-ass posters. Mayweather at 22 is my biggest problem.
     
  13. Rumsfeld

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    :lol:

    Had his post been made in the Lounge, an inevitable "Go **** yourself! :smoke" would have followed, but I try to remain classier in the Classic section.

    That said, I couldn't even be arsed to include teeto's.

    I entered the results into the spreadsheet about a year ago, and only had a few things left to fix up, so adding in new results at that point would have ****ed everything up and required far more work.

    I couldn't be arsed.

    That said, thank you everyone who participated in this, and the 8 other surveys I conducted!

    :cheers

    Many apologies for the long awaited results.

    Hope you guys enjoyed.
     
  14. Rumsfeld

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    It's not designed to be a complete list in that sense.

    It was intended to come up with a compilation top ten list.

    Actually, that's something I probably should have stressed more in the articles. Participants entered 10 fighters. It's supposed to represent a Top 10, so those listed below #10 should really be referred to as "Also receiving votes" technically speaking, I think.

    All it takes is one voter to have someone ranked really high, and it could put someone who only received votes on 1 out of 56 lists ahead of a guy who appeared on 4 or 5 lists, conceivably.
     
  15. McGrain

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    :lol: