P4P Top 10 Official Survey (Poll Closes October 27)

How many other examples (except those that are already in my top 10) do you have of fighters who faced such a huge size disparity , yet lasted the distance almost every time.


Does anyone know if the shoulder dislocation Vitali suffered against Byrd was caused before the fight or during the fight ?

 

OKay, I have had my fun with Joey Maxim.

But I am interested in who everybody thinks should move into the top 10 list in his place.

Charles is an obvious contender. Is it safe to say he should rate ahead of Moore? I think so but am interested what others thing. Others i see in contention with these guys would include Tommy Ryan or Barbados Joe Walcott who both had no problems climbing through the ranks. Or maybe a short but spectacular run of a Terry McGovern might tilt the scales in his favour. Looking through my list there seems to be a fighter from most eras, except the 80s and 90s. Who is the obvious pound for pound greats from these eras?

 

It's disgusting how underrated Ali is becoming.

For that reason;

1. Ali
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Harry Greb
5. Benny Leonard
6. Archie Moore
7. Sugar Ray Leonard
8. Ezzard Charles
9. Roberto Duran
10. Joe Louis

I would have Ali 5th, but I stand by 1st due to how poorly people are rating him.

 

Ali was no Ray Leonard.

 

And Leonard wasn't even that great.

 

Shut up you weird Duran fanboy.
Ali is easily one of the ten best fighters ever. Saying otherwise is an attempt to appear elitist and 'knowledgable'.

 

Top2 of the pioneer era:
Bob Fitzsimmons
Sam Langford
Runners up: Tommy Ryan, Barbados Joe Walcott, Joe Gans

Top1 of the transition era:
Harry Greb
Runners up: Benny Leonard, Gene Tunney

Top5 of the classic era:
Mickey Walker
Henry Armstrong
Sugar Ray Robinson
Ezzard Charles
Roberto Duran
Runners up: Jimmy McLarnin, Toney Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Joe Louis, Archie Moore, Muhammad Ali, Jose Napoles

Top2 of the modern era:
Sugar Ray Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Runenrs Up: Julio Cesar Chavez, Evander Holyfield, Manny Pacquiao

There´s your Top10. Not in order and it doesn´t really make sense but I was a bit bored.

 

I agree. But, here is another way of looking at it.

ON a pound for pound basis, Ali is almost certainly the fastest boxer of all time.

He probably has the best Heart/recuperative powers of all time.

His chin must be pretty close to the best pound for pound chin of all time.

How many other fighters would be ranked so highly, pound for pound, in so many categories? I dont think no 1 is totally out of the question.

 

I wouldn't have Ali at 1 anyway. 5 is his position for me. I just think it would be terrible for him to miss out in the top ten because people seem to misinterpret 'P4P'. Either that or they're trying to be too clever and not wanting to name obvious choices.

 

Yet you didnt include the only middleweight or light heavyweight ever to win the World Heavyweight title in your list! Isnt that leaving out the most obvious choice? Or have you misinterpreted pound for pound, or tried to be too clever?

 

No. Fitzimmons has little footage and looks **** in the footage there is. I dont rate him higher than the people in my list.

 

1. SRR
2. Greb
3. Armstrong
4. Ali
5. Duran
6. Ezzard Charles
7. Benny Leonard
8. Pep
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Joe Louis

 

Imagine Duran dominating the lightweights without a De Jesus loss, beating future welterweight champion like if he were a third-rater, and after a near 2-years lay-off outpointing the best middleweight of his time.