p4p top 25 updated

1 edit. Much better.
Actually a few guys could slot right in at 25 there. Haye is yet to beat anyone in the top 50 P4P and struggled against Valuev who probably isn't in the top 150 P4P. Haye is around 45-50 p4p currently.

 

I won't put Guillermo Rigondeaux in the top 25 with just a few fights and much less ahead of Gamboa and Juan Manuel Lopez. Celestino will soon get KTFO at 126 vs Gamboa or Juanma. I'll have Ivan Calderon in my top 10 list.

Ward is getting too much credit for his win against Green.

Of course is your list and you can put anyone you want.

 

ward needs one more big win, not that thing yesterday, against a top fighter. if he outclasses dirrell( and i'm ver sure that dirrell will outclass ward) then he enters the top 10. but after oner big win to put him in the top 5??????????????????????????????????

 

:good

 

Solid list :good but I would replace Cotto with Donaire.

 

1. pac
2. floyd
3. wlad klit
4. jmm
5. paul williams
6. chad dawson
7. vitali klit
8. pong wonjongkam
9. poonsawat kratingyem
10. ivan calderon
11. antonio margarito
12. sergio martinez
13. fernando montiel
14. miguel cotto
15. andre ward
16. lucian bute
17. andre dirrell
18. juan manuel lopez
19. rafeal marquez
20. nonito donaire
21. celestino caballeo
22. david haye
23. devon alexander
24. timothy bradley
25. roman martinez

 

Mormeck may have been in the top 50, and is by far the best win on Haye's resume. And that was a while ago now, approaching 3 years - in boxing that's a long time.

Valuev's weight means nothing. The whole point of the heavy division having no upper limit is the fact that size and weight stops being an advantage at a certain threshhold. Simple laws of physics at play. I don't know why people even point out Valuev's weight. Everyone knows that it means nothing - so why pretend it does? If his weight was the advantage that people pretend it is then he would have been unstoppable, and the heavy division would have had overall a bias towards much larger champions. It's only since Lennox that champions have been bigger than average. Size past a certain point is a disadvantage.
Heck, if weight is such an advantage then Butterbean would have been unified, undisputed champion. Robert Wadlow would have been a god.

Haye is about 45-50 P4P.

Also, Donaire is a bit too high. He really shouldn't be in the top 10. He has had one really good win over a quality opponent, and that was also a while ago now, also approaching 3 years.
I think he has the skill to be in the top 10, but his resume is outside the top 25. So he probably belongs around #15.