P4p top 30 - Elite Boxers of Today

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i consider the p4p top 30 as elite boxers. i know people only considers the top 10 as elite..

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Miguel Cotto
    7. Paul Williams
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Ricky Hatton

    11. Juan Manuel Lopez
    12. Nonito Donaire
    13. Vic Darchinyan
    14. Chad Dawson
    15. Kelly Pavlik
    16. Celestino Caballero
    17. Vitalai Klitschko
    18. Wladimir Klitschko
    19.Tomasz Adamek
    20. Mikkel Kessler

    21. David Haye
    22. Fernando Montiel
    23. Arthur Abraham
    24. Joan Guzman
    25. Humberto Soto
    26. Chris John
    27. Andre Berto
    28. Jorge Linares
    29. Joshua Clottey
    30. Roman Gonzales

    31-40 Tim Bradley, Nate Campbell, Juan Diaz, Victor Ortiz, Edwin Valero, Edgar Sosa, Robert Guerrero, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Hozumi Hasegawa, Lucian Bute
     
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  2. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a hard time putting fighters ahead of guys that beat them. In the case of Shane and cotto Its one thing, that fight was close and could have really gone either way. But in the case of Donaire and Vic...No way. Donaire dominated Vic and knocked him out.

    But really does a p4p list need to go past the first 10??
     
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  3. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    I like your list a lot - but I as well would put Vic below Donaire
     
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  4. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    but im really impress with the way darchinyan defeated mijares...still, if agbeko manage to win atleast 3 rounds against darchinyan goes out of top 15
     
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  5. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    The answer is NO. And I made this point on the same titled thread weeks ago. No one cares about a top 20, even a top 15 is a stretch.

    Bernard has lost 1 and won 1 in nearly 20 month, so I would like to know the criteria of putting him at #3, especially when the man he beat is at #15.

    Whether you hate him or not Wlad should be in the top 10
     
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  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be honest Mijares was a hype job, somewere along the lines of Jeff Lacy. In watching his fights I just never saw the greatness that he was suppose to have. What I saw was a guy that got some close calls in some fights that he should have lost. Not to mention that he lost his last fight to a newbie that went largely unspoke of. I would venue to bet that many dont even know that he lost a few weeks ago.
     
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  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    okie, but mijares displayed great skills in munoz an arce fight...if mijares is like lacy, then darchinyan should be outside top 20...i give guys credit who won despite being the underdog
     
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  8. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

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    Bernard is #1
    Marquez is not top 5
    Hatton is, as is Mosely
    Rafael Marquez is not active = not rankable
     
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  9. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    hatton is top 5 but marquez isnt? wtf?:huh
     
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  10. sweetscientist

    sweetscientist Yori Boy Die Hard Full Member

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    i am sure there are plenty of choices i have made here that will rub many of you the wrong way...but my top 30 goes something like this...though it is subject to change as, i admit, there were a number of choices that i might slide a few places one way or the other given some time to reconsider.

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Miguel Cotto
    6. Fernando Montiel
    7. Paul Williams
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Roman Gonzalez

    11. Vic Darchinyan
    12. Joan Guzman
    13. Wladimir Klitschko
    14. Chad Dawson
    15. Kelly Pavlik
    16. Israel Vazquez
    17. Lucien Bute
    18. Ricky Hatton
    19. Arthur Abraham
    20. Mikkel Kessler

    21. Celestino Caballero
    22. Tomasz Adamek
    23. Felix Sturm
    24. Nonito Donaire
    25. Vitali Klitschko
    26. Humberto Soto
    27. Chris John
    28. Juan Manuel Lopez
    29. Jorge Linares
    30. Timothy Bradley
     
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  11. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    impressive list. almost all in right order too.
     
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  12. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree!

    BUT, isnt guy like David Haye worth of mention?:huh Basically he was the man in CW..:think Holding 3 major belts of 4.
     
    JohnAkiBoa, Apr 20, 2009
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  13. jpjp7

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    donaire #24? give me a ****ing break!
     
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  14. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye definitely should be in there.
     
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  15. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    Where is antonio margarito in these list's has he been offically banned from boxing for good has he? i thought he was just temporailly suspended
     
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