P4P used to be sacred domain!

Boxing is a global sport . Why would anybody only champion fighters from the Eastern Bloc like this guy?

Thread is pure garbage.

 

Good thread. Almost a reverse racism / xenophobia going on from some quarters..

 

Everybody gets some type of criticism whether deserves or not, between Lomachenko, Kova, and GGG the only one who doesn't get respect on a P4P level is Golovkin and that's simply because he's all talk and no walk. even guys who've picked against Loma or Kova give them respect on there willingness to actually prove they want the best.

 

P4P is entirely subjective.

 

just do your own.....it holds bout as much merit as any of the others out there....unless its just a troll ranking......

 

You're one of the most unbiased posters here, but stop with this fighting in America nonsense. The reason boxers fight here is for economic reasons and for the most part judging is fair. Sure there are aberrations. How many fights have Golovin, Kovalev, Pacqiao and Loma lost here? A handful? They all got to P4P list by fighting in America. America is unfair? The only obvious robbery of the fighters in the P4P was Bradley-Pacquiao. Kov-Ward was CLOSE. The American conspiracy theory of not getting a fair shake is really a whiner's excuse and getting old.

 

p4p is pointless anyway.

 

Boxing, like baseball, loves its tradition. It hates change. When championship quality white talent in the higher classes dried up here decades ago, promoters were tripping over themselves to capture the "good ol' days"- thus the "white hope" era.

Fast forward a few decades, and generations of fans are used to African Americans, by and large, controlling the higher classes, and Latino fighters controlling the lower weights. That's what we saw, with some exceptions, so we figure that's how it stays. That's comfortable.

Then, things change. Now there's not only Euro fighters on the world stage, but Eastern Euros and Asians. Culturally, it'd have been unheard of for U.S. trainers to take on fighters from the ex-Soviet states, let alone have fans warm up to them. U.S. promoters and networks giving those guys featured slots and backing? Unheard of! It wasn't just U.S. fighters the foreigners had to win over, it was the entire U.S. boxing infrastructure. Naturally, some of those entrenched and enriched by the current system weren't going to be thrilled to see it. As much as Arum talks up Loma, I can guarantee you he's woke up wishing Loma was Puerto Rican. He's got to work harder to build up Loma's name value here because doing that for a Ukrainian is outside his comfort zone.

It's got nothing to do with race per se, and everything to do with reluctance to accept change. There was a time when Lennox wasn't taken serious here because he wasn't American, and most fans hadn't seen a European based Heavyweight that was better than what the U.S. had to offer.

 

I don't get the logic of HW fighters ranked p4p anyway. That just defeats the whole p4p purpose.

 

True. In reality a HW beats every one down the ladder. P4P is some mythical list that compares only skill. It's dumb though. As one move ups in division, fighters get bigger, more powerful and slower in general (PEDs changed that). So there's no way a tiny guy like Loma would have that kind of movement and speed if he magically became a heavyweight. And Wlad would be a lot faster if he magically became tiny like Loma. Wlad wouldn't have to fight so cautiously as a tiny man unlike in HW where almost every opponent could potentially KO him.