Pac a coward???

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  1. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cool down buddy! you can't say both jmm and pac has the same 100% level of achievement!

    one is better than the other.. if you don't like the word inferior. I can change it. PAC has better resume period!
     
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  2. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you ain't answering the question buddy!

    same at the question posted to divac if he really agrees is pac is coward or not!

    some esb fans resort to saying stuff or replying without answering the simple question...

    hard to swallow the truth?!

    get some pills! it might help :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    this thread should not be this long. pacfans should stop feeding this thread. divac is just provoking you. i wouldn't be surprised if he would search for other articles that will help prove his point.
     
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  4. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes, who ever agrees with it that pac is a coward is a CERTIFIED ******! :good
     
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  5. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac the mexican assassin???
     
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  6. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IT'S ok. This whole process showed who is the true COWARD here!

    Mind you, if I tell divac in the next fight i'll be banned for two months while he'll be banned for a month. He still will have his set of reasoning not to have a bet.

    That's how COWARD he is! He said he does not want to bet coz he wants to be heard or he wants to hear my side. i said fine. YOu are allowed to post for a week then we start the ban? Sill he does not accept!

    It's NO BRIANER to realized who is COWARD and WHO IS NOT? ONLY the ****** will not know who's coward and who's not! :hey :good

    Oh I forgot. He's also a CRY BABY :| :| :|
     
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  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    the underdog, I think me and you had some interesting educational exchanges early on within the first few pages of this thread.

    We dont have to agree, but props to you my friend for taking the time to actually read into my posts, and exchanging your thoughts rationaly and reasonably.

    I've already explained earlier in the thread why I opened this thread, but it's lost on deaf ears or eyesight, as its about reading in a forum like this.

    I can see that alot of these Pac hardcores refuse to read the content of the posts, and just read the thread title!
    It would'nt suprise me in the least that a good portion of them did'nt even click on the link I supplied in my opening post!

    I believe the Pac hardcore should look deep within themselves and question why they called JMM a coward for refusing to take Bob Arum's offer after there first fight.

    .....back then, it was about JMM believing he deserved more than a 100K pay hike, after the performance he and Pac both put up.
    ....anyways, Arum refused to even negotiate with the JMM team, and gave the Pac fight to Morales.....

    .....for that, Pac fans everywhere have crucified JMM for not taking Arum's offer.

    Where are those Pac fans that crucified JMM back then???

    Obviously the boxing fans still view the JMM-Pac rivalry as unfinished business.
    Lets be real here, the boxing fan would love to see a third JMM-Pac fight.

    JMM is saying, "yes, lets give it to them."

    What is Pac saying, does he want to give the boxing fan what they want?

    If the Pac fan freely criticized JMM before, let them look in the mirror, think and analyze......who was more in the right to refuse a fight, JMM because he felt Arum was'nt being truthful with him as far as how much money was in the pot for a second Pac fight right after their first fight......
    .....or Pac, simply because he's telling the fans that he has other and better business elsewhere, and then take a David Diaz fight for a bogus paper title???

    If the Pac fan is going to criticize, I'll I'm saying is for them to do it fairly across the board.

    I stated earlier in the thread that I felt the Pac hardcores who vehemently criticized JMM for not accepting Arum's offer for an immediate Pac rematch, owed JMM an apology.
    I have yet to see even one of them come out and say, "I was wrong in criticizing JMM the way I did, obviously he had good reason to hold back and at the very least look for a negotiation with Arum that never came."

    ....but even with boxing benefiting from another JMM-Pac fight, they refuse to criticize Pac for not wanting to please the fan, and worst, they refuse to take back the venom that they spewed all over JMM for refusing honest Arum's offer!:-(
     
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  8. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    ok. thats better:good
     
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  9. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    so you're 'indirectly' referring to pac as a coward then
     
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  10. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get your point. I want the fight to happen too just like most boxing fans!

    If pac does not fight jmm for the third time in the future than I'll be disappointed myself. When I SAY future. I mean JMM being too old to fight!

    YES, you and I like the third fight to happen.. on the other hand you would want add legacy in your name you want to add NEW names in the list.

    After his fight with DIAZ and probably another one...
    while JMM fights either campbell or casa
    ..the other one I'm referring is either campell or casa

    If jmm WINS over casa/campbell
    If pac wins over dIAZ then either casa/camPbell

    both JMM and PAC has NEW belt! I see no reason why pac should not fight JMM..

    Like I said... so many boxers wants to get a piece of pac. JMM had two tries... it's time to fight other boxers and just get back to JMM again.

    REMEMBER, pac LIFE does not revolve around JMM :D and it should be vice-versa!
     
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  11. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ... jmm was critizied coz he took a much much much purse compared to what was offered....pac fans had a grand feast critizising JMM. at that time... pac was not as popular as compared to NOW.

    At that time, He (pac) needed somebody to make him more marketable/ add color to his resume.

    Now that pac's popularity is soaring he does not actually need JMM. but don't get me wrong...

    I/ we want the pac vs jmm 3 to HAPPEN. In business side, obviously he does not need JMM anymore. But for LEGACY and to open the CLOSED BUSINESS for the fans. It should happen.
     
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  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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  13. johnco

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    move on divac... life is not fair sometimes.

    if jmm had the right to turn down pac for a shitty 30 k, then I dont see a problem pac moving on with his life and earn something (not financially) that no mexican has done, that is getting his 4th a-b-c tiltle excluding his ring. ;)

    dont complain divac. you didnt complain and acted like a cry baby when your boy turned down pac during the first time.. and now your complaining that pac wont rematch your boy.... DOUBLE STANDARD my fellow oakland raider fan. :rofl :rofl :rofl :twisted:

    why not ask your boy to move on with his life. same was what pac did to his life when he was turned down by jmm for a shitty 30K. pac faced the dangerous em and the rest was history. :good

    why not jmm fight chris john who gave jmm a whooping. we'll you guys are crying robbery from chris john then why not act like a cry baby in this forum again and petition for a rematch with chris john :yep :yep

    why it has to be pac always. I know it is sickening to your stomach that jmm kissed the canvass 4 times courtesy of pac and lost 1 (should be twice) but if jmm could turn down pac i dont see any reason pac doing the same thing and moving on with his life :hey :hey

    and BTW, I heard guzman is waiting for jmm :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (will you call jmm a coward if he wont bite this fight?) LOL
     
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  14. puga_ni_nana

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    marquez did not take the pac rematch because he got away with a draw and still has the belt. back then pac wanted to settle it immeadiately but marquez seems to have some other business in mind. its not a secret that having been down 3 times in 1 round would be bad for one's health and physical being so not accepting a $700k pay might be a good move for marquez and his camp. i did not call him a coward then. it's a business strategy by his camp.

    Now pac beat marquez in a close match where the kd prove to be the decider. pac got what he wants in the first place, the 130 belt, and he is now moving-on. the diaz fight was just sidelined prior to the marquez fight. now diaz has what pac wants and marquez has no bargaining chip this time, only the closeness of the fight.

    from arum's perspective, the diaz fight is the right direction for pac. financially and even legacy (5th belt in as many weight class). though you said that diaz is a paper champ, diaz has what pac wants and if marquez would get a belt at 135 too, pac or arum would have all the reason in the world to fight marquez a third time. maybe even sooner. for the meantime, quit hiding in someone else's article that if someone ask you if you called pac a coward, you would quickly point at the article.
     
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  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: You dont see the writing on the wall do you?


    Pac is moving up to 135 lbs saying he wants the 135 lbs title.

    To that, JMM says no problem, we can fight at 135 lbs....
    ....but to counteract JMM's willingness to fight Pac even after the Diaz fight, the Pac team turns around and says they want Hatton at 140 lbs right after Diaz.....

    .....in other words, whether Pac actually fights Hatton or not, them announcing that they want Hatton right after Diaz, is essentially letting JMM know that he should'nt waist his time pursuing a Pac fight, as we will move as far away from you as possible.

    I dont know what is the Pac's team actual strategy, but they can very well be discouraging JMM from stepping up to lightweight to fight either Casamayor or Campbell.

    If JMM can still make 130 lbs comfortably and without a problem, the Pac's team strategy can very well be to discourage JMM's chase of Pac by stating we're going right up to fight Hatton after David Diaz.

    JMM's thinking can then be, why in the hell step up to lightweight and risk fights out of my weight class against naturally bigger fighters, if it may not lead to the fight I want, the Pac fight!



    Now, JMM can stay at 130 lbs, and move up only if Pac agrees to fight him.......but to that move the *******s will say, why should Pac fight JMM, he has'nt even proven himself at 135 lbs!:lol: :lol: :nut


    So is the plight of JMM!:lol: :yep
     
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