if a third fight happens and is still controversial as the first 2 fights and pac won again, would you still bring this **** up? Because i think you're the only person here on ESB that cares more about this ****. After watching the 2 fights, i conclude that JMM wins against pac in terms of winning rounds, but the fight would always be close as pac as always finds ways to make it close. Look at it this way, even if jmm got the nod on that 2nd fight its not convincing. I had him the winner on the 2nd fight but it was not a convincing win hence i don't have any problem with the decision hence the general conclusion "it could have gone either way". Hence my conclusion..jmm's style is always bad for pac and thats why i give pac props taking the fight. JMM had 2 chances, he didn't deliver. Was it his fault? No.. because pac got his natural talents and abilities to make the fight as it is even though the style disadvantage
And pac ain't no coward.. he is one of boxing's true warriors and you should be glad to see him. If you don't like who he fights, then blame his promoter, his management. But him no..he's a gentlemen and he even joke about fighting jmm again without any gloves. And if he and jmm were in a fist fight, i'd pick pac as the winner without any doubts
Most boxing journalist, and polls set up in boxing forums like this, had JMM the winner over Pac. I even called out Pac fans to show me a poll in any boxing forum beside Pacland (I looked for a poll there but did'nt find one, wonder why?:yep ) .....in any regard, I have'nt seen a poll yet in a forum that had Pacquiao winnning it! Anyways Kartog, after the JMM-Pac rematch sold over 500K PPV's, obviously it would be a hot sell again for a third fight. ......and probably not so, if the fight was put in the backburner for a later time, when one or both fighters have a loss, or losses on their resume. A third fight between JMM and Pac is the fight to be made. It would be the highest payday for both fighters in matchups that both could claim are winnable. Pac has some higher paying possible matchups he can go up to, but their not winnable fights for him against Ricky Hatton and DLH. Those are cashout fights for Pac, which should be a sign to everyone that he's cashing out now because he does'nt like his chances against either JMM or Joan Guzman!
Coward? Hell no.. I don't blame Pac for moving up to the lightweight division and looking for new competitors and titles, but a rematch with JMM would be swell.. If JMM & Pac were to fight for the third time, JMM would more than likely have to move up to 135 as Pac barely made weight in their second fight.. They say he's dodging Guzman, JMM and other fighters, but let them move up to 135 and you'll probably get your fight.. Theres more people out there to fight than just JMM..
.....talk about someone rubbing against Pac's balls....:yep You just stated that you had JMM winning the rematch, and you go ahead and contradict yourself by stating that he failed to deliver. I hear alot of Pac fans state that JMM was'nt convincing enough, as if he should have a higher burden of proof when he fights Pac to get a decision.!:-( Listen guys, If the fight should happen again, fine, I'm happy with it...... .....but personally, I've seen the schooling twice and know who the better fighter is. Hopefully, GBP's pushes through a more competitive matchup for JMM against the likes of Guzman, and even one of the other lightweight champs. As a boxing fan, I'd rather see JMM display his skills against someone that is at a higher skill level than Pac!
.....please get that Pac barely made weight excuse out of here!:rofl Pac actually came in under the weight limit, he was primed and ready. The weight issue was not posted as an excuse for getting schooled this time by the Pac team. Pac was allowed to choose the weight, and he chose 130 lbs. Enough of that crap!
But the judges saw it as a draw and then a Pac win.. Your opinion on who won doesn't make it true.. If JMM is gonna' beat Pac, he's gonna' have to KO him or atleast knock him down, but he can't.. Now let him go fight someone like Guzman, as you said, and let him get off Pac's balls..
It's not an excuse and Pac did take the fight at 130, but now he's moving up.. If JMM wants the fight, he's gonna' have to move up.. Pac isn't goin' back down to 130..
i think you didn't get the point and i'm not ball hugging pacquiao as you are with jmm(as everyone knows you're in the center of his balls) i had jmm winning, my scorecard was close thats why i said he didn't deliver to totally outpoint him. JMM did outbox pac, and got more rounds but like i said pac always find ways to make it close(i.e the KDs) No one is saying jmm needs a higher burden of proof, what the fans were probably saying is if jmm could have done more then he would have probably won which is not the case with the 2 fights. And as you stated you're fine 3rd fight or none as jmm already schooled pac, i didn't need to see a 3rd fight either as 2 fights are enough to conclude the whole story. If a 3rd fight were to happen, i'll also be happy with it and i'm predicting a same kind of fight with the other 2 fights. If he stays at 130, i'd also like to see him against guzman or soto. But if he decides to follow pac at 135, i'd like to see how he does against casa, or any other guy at 135 other than pac
Earth to sandman........get out of your sandcave...... ....the JMM fight has been proposed to Pac at 135 lbs, he has declined, the plan for him as it stands right now, as JMM has stated he'll fight him at 135 lbs, is for Pac to run up once again, this time to cashout against Ricky Hatton in order to avoid yet another schooling at the hands of JMM! Pac say's anything but a JMM schooling! Wake up out of your sandcave my friend!
He is turning down $7M for another fight that would net him more or less the same and after that fight he could be in a showdown with Hatton which would give him in the vicinity of $20M. JMM turned down a $750 parity with Pac for a $60K. Big difference..:verysad
Pac will lose to the likes of Campbell and maybe even Juan Diaz.....at 135 lbs, he's not going to have the size, strenghth, and even power advantage that he needs to suceeds. .....so the JMM fight is going to lose its lustre and even go out the window anyways! Casamayor is still a good boxer, but he's slown so much the past couple of years, that Pac may be able to beat him. My point is that Pac does'nt have the skills enough to compete with the really skilled at lightweight and above without the size advantage. .....kind of what Arturo Gatti went through as he climbed the weights after he moved up from 130 lbs! .....still competitive, but the size disparity gone and not enough to beat better skilled fighters! Just my opinion of course, but mark divac's words! Btw Pac hardcores, David Diaz is not highly skilled. In fact he's not very skilled at all. Pac is much better skilled than Diaz, which is why he will beat David handily!
Not at all. PBF is dissed for not fighting Margo or Cotto at all. Pac here is being dissed for not fighting JMM for the 3rd time!