Pac and Cotto's belt

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zone36, Jul 4, 2009.


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  1. Zone36

    Zone36 Member Full Member

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    I just read one of the latest articles. It says their fight is going to be at a 145 catch weight, but it will still be for Cotto's belt.

    I'm guessing this was a stipulation that Cotto's team had to make to fight Pac.

    I guess if they accept it, it's fair enough.

    But because it's at a catch weight, it almost seems like it would diminish Pac's victory if he wins.

    Beating Cotto would still be quite an accomplishment, but seems weird for it to happen this way.

    In the end Pac is still taking a calculated risk. He's even fighting two lbs than he said he would. Cotto is still a very dangerous fighter and this seems like a fair enough middle ground. Each fighter giving his opponent enough leeway to feel comfortable.

    What does everyone think about the situation?
    Have any other catch weight bouts resulted in relinquishing a title?
     
    Zone36, Jul 4, 2009
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  2. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If its for Cotto's welterweight belt then it has to be fought at welterweight


    Pac could be the world's first 145lb champion, and make the world's first defence against Floyd
     
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  3. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Welterweight limit is between 140.1 lbs and 147 lbs. An ABC title can be acquired at any weight within the limit.

    There have been many fights at catchweights with the titles on the line.
     
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  4. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    EDIT: Pretty much what 4rounder said.
     
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  5. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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  6. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    thatr's ****ing stupid, if pac wants to claim a welterweight belt he should allow his opponent to fight within the weleter limits aka anything 147 and below not 145.
     
    Royal-T-Bag, Jul 4, 2009
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  7. Zone36

    Zone36 Member Full Member

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    If Armstrong, Trinidad, Hopkins, and Oscar did it and I'm sure countless others. I bet Ali had a few catch weights under his belt. Pac can do it.

    Like I said before. If Cotto's TEAM is taking it, they still think it's fair enough. Sure everyone wants to fight Pac, but they still want the chance to beat him.
     
    Zone36, Jul 4, 2009
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  8. p4p_kid

    p4p_kid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PAC has no business fighting BIG guys but he's still up for the challenge, 2 lbs would be fair for the little guy i guess
     
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  9. LOSP4P

    LOSP4P New Member Full Member

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    Floyd came in and 150 to get a jr. middleweight title so I don't see a problem
     
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  10. JuanMa

    JuanMa business as usual Full Member

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    Pac meets the Welterweight limit so its not an issue.
     
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  11. Zone36

    Zone36 Member Full Member

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    Well it's not so much Pac's weight. The issue I hear from others is the 145 limit it's placing on Cotto. It's forcing him down a bit more. Of course he can pack it on after the weigh in.

    But if he started now and just maintained something like 146 to 147 and then dropped to 145. I think the limit would hardly have an effect on him.
     
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  12. DLSC

    DLSC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If both parties agree and it's sanctioned by the governing body ( WBC? ), then it should be considered a title fight regardless of what us boxing fans think.
     
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  13. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    cotto weighed in @146 for the clottey fight. we're squabbling about 1 damn lb here!

    on the other hand, pac hasn't weighed in more than 142 for a fight. he actually weighed in @138, 2 lbs. south of the lightwelter limit in his last fight. 144-145 is but fair considering cotto will balloon up to 160 for the fight while pac will be @148-149, a 10+ lb size/strength advantage for cotto.
     
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  14. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Numerous title bouts have been at catchweights below the weight limit.

    Why would this be any different?

    I'd prefer it to be 147, but whatever, it doesn't bother me that much.

    Cotto and his team say they'll be fine @ 145 and I'll just take them at their word.
     
    Thread Stealer, Jul 4, 2009
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  15. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That´s different, he didn´t ask Oscar to do the same, he just wasn´t any bigger than that. Oscar came in right at the limit of 154.
     
    richie leon, Jul 5, 2009
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