pac and floyd fans....take it from me, i'm neutral in all of this...

OP has a point.

 

Yes but Floyd brings in more gross for his fights and even set records with Mosley and Victor "I'm a tree" Ortiz.

 

From a fan's standpoint it sounds logical. From a business standpoint it isn't logical at all. Because he's now able to invest in and essentially promote his own fights, Floyd can go on fighting the likes of Ortiz, Canelo, etc. and making $40 million paydays, so why in the **** would he pay Manny more than he knows he's worth just for the "privilege" of fighting him?

 

Yeah it would have to gross a **** load of money. Also if that was to happen then Manny would be getting a 35 to 40 million pay raise compared to what he makes already and Floyd would be getting around 15 million raise.

 

He still can't make the kind of money he could fighting those guys by giving Manny 50/50. . . Maybe not that much more, but he'd still make more. . .

Why not make the most money you can make, and at the same time, give hte fans what they want to see?

Floyd doesn't want to take the risk of possibly losing to Pacquiao. . . His "0" is all he has. . .

 

You are missing the point though. Yes Floyd could make 15 million more off a 50/50 split if this fight does crazy ass numbers. The thing is Manny would be getting an extra 20 to 30 million more than his normal pay day. The 40 million dollar offer is already 15 to 20 million more than what Manny makes now.

 

well maybe hes made enough cash to settle for half and do whats right as a fighter and go fight the best in your era and quit hiding behind all this bull**** like a ***...half the sports world is sick of it, and almost all the boxing world is too....he cares zero about his fans for not making the one fight people this decade care about....what a brilliant guy he is

 

ive never seen a boxing fan justify a fighter not fighting and making the best fight of his era going on 3 years now like any real fan in the world gives a **** about .....at the end of the day, 50/50 is fair for 2 superstars and 1 doesnt want it and never has...PERIOD

 

Look at you getting all emotional. First of all I have said that 50/50 should be fine but these guys are going to talk business in the negotiations, not what us fans think or want. That is the point I am making and showing you why Floyd would want more money bc the numbers don't lie. Also you can't just blame Floyd for this fight not happening. You must blame everyone bc they all ****ed around. I do recall Manny not agreeing to fight when Floyd was willing to do 50/50. Maybe you forgot about that.

 

No kiding. its baffling how his fans spend so much time defending and he wont even give them the fight they want to see. ****, when has he ever given them the fights they want to see.


btw, this idea that Floyd makes more so he cant accept 50/50 is ******ed. First of all the amount Manny makes is irrelevant. He has to pay off a % to a promoter, as most fighters do, but the bottom line is PPV buys. How much money does he generate. If you look at Floyd / Pacquiao's numbers, there pretty much even. Pacquiao numbers have even been better recently. His last 3 PPV's total more buys then Floyds.

So Floyd has no justification for making these kind of demands. At best he can offer 55/45 or something like that. In reality, he needs Pacquiao to make the kind of money he's looking to make should he fight him. Pac is (at least) 1/2 of the equation, so he deserves 50/50 - period. Whether or not Floyd gets to keep more money in the end is his business, and it's irrelevant. Of course him and his fans never went to high school and are too dumb to understand this.

The bottom line tho is Floyd shouldnt be demanding anything at this point since this fight had so many roadblocks already. Floyd just throws a new one into the mix everytime the fight can be made. Why wasn't he talking about money a year, 2 years , 3 years ago? It was all about blood testing, and once that got cleared up, surprise surprise, moeny is the issue now. I even said he was gonna do this for a while and his fans kept denying it.

Why they keep defending this turd is beyond me. But they are loyal you have to give them credit.

 

So why not justify all boxers "always making smart business" moves? That's why the sport is going to shite, because fighters with names realize they can make damn good money by fighting in their backyards against handpicked opponents. . . Why should Bute travel to Nottingham to fight Froch, when he can make just as much fighting in Montreal against less than worthy opponnets? Why should Chavez ever fight Martinez, when he can make almost as much fighting Manfredo's, etc. in Texas, SoCal, or even Mexico? Same with Canelo. . .

Sometimes you have to sacrifice a little, and take some risks. . . As long as he's getting paid handsomely. . . It's not like Floyd's NOT going to make the most money he's ever made. .

 

How are we defending it when we all think it should be 50/50? The bottom line is that what we want doesn't matter when it comes to negotiation and going over the numbers.

Now I will say this once again. All this **** could have been worked out had Arum entered into negotiations instead of making tons of excuses as to why the fight wasn't going to happen May 5th. The problem you have is that you can't look at this with an open mind to see that they are all to blame for this fight not happening.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Maybe, but I seriously doubt he's worried about Pacquiao beating him, especially after he wasn't able to beat a 38 year old Marquez convincingly. I think this is about him not wanting to overpay and wanting to be in control more than anything.

 

True and I agree but once again what we want doesn't matter to Floyd, Manny, and Bob Arum. They are all at fault. Manny could have taking this fight when he was giving a 50/50 split and reasonable cut off but he didn't.