pac and floyd fans....take it from me, i'm neutral in all of this...

Translation: "I have no source because I just made that **** up." :yep

Manny's sources are no more "official" than Floyd's when it comes to what they make. Bob Arum is the one who puts Manny's info out there, and even most fliptards don't rate him as a reliable source.

You're just another ****ing idiot fanboy spouting his stupid, uneducated opinion with nothing to back it up. :deal

 

What negotiation are you talking about? The negotiation never happened bc Arum refused to answer Shaefer's calls. Manny doesn't negotiate his own fights. "Why is Shaefer calling me?" "I didn't answer his calls bc I don't know why he is calling me." "They have nothing to do with this." Bob Arum

 

That's how I see it. They're both a disgrace to the sport. And Arum.

 

The time hwen they were trying to contact Floyd, but he was nowhere to be found. . . Arum said he would give FLoyd two weeks to answer, or return the call, otherwise they'd have to move forward with another opponent. . That was the third go'round. . .

As far as Floyd pulling out of negotiations, and claiming there "was none", well I think it was the second go-round. . . The time where Floyd's team said there were no negotiations, but Arum insisted there was. . Then HBO's Greenberg came out and verified Arum's story, saying there was in fact negotiations, and they were "fairly deep."

 

If you're at all interested in forming an educated opinion on this subject, you should read up on it.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-welterweight-with-heavyweight-financial-clout.html?_r=3&hp[/url]

 

Pretty much this. . . They are both ruining boxing. . .

And Floyd is the exact same as Arum when it comes to "business first, fans second. . . " Where do you think he learned from?

 

Name me one elite level fighter today who isn't. :deal

 

Carl Froch. . .

 

Biased article... Don't care about his "proclaimed" business model, nor his "proclaimed money." Stopped reading when it said ". . . regarded as one of the best boxers in history." Maybe top 50.

Only care about seeing him fight Pacquiao.

 

I don't much give a **** about seeing him fight Pacquiao at this point. I'd rather see him take on a bigger challenge in Martinez.

 

Wouldn't mind seeing that fight either. . . Pac/Floyd has to come first, though. . . This shyt has got to come to an end. . .

 

Not quite.

He said he'll be making 60 million. 40 million from Mosley and 20 million from sponsors backing him. The latter I'm guessing is bull**** because he isn't a very marketable guy for a fortune 500 company due to his bad boy persona.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I1h9ZpgBVI[/ame]

There's the video

 

Oh you are talking about the time when Floyd said full random or no fight. The time that he said it will be not fight without it. Yes Floyd could have went back on his word and gave Manny a 7 day cut off. That is why I say that they are all to blame.

 

C'mon Fred? Floyd went about "trying" to make the fight by doing all the things you're not supposed to do in negotiations.:rofl

It's a pretty big deal to eliminate the other half of a "business deal" and negotiate alone to "try" and get the "other half" to agree.

That's like me saying I wanted to work out a deal with you.... Let's say one of your beautiful low-riders that you gave and sacrificed to create...then told you how much I was going to pay for it. Better yet.....let's say I wanted you to build one from scratch... And I told you when to start, when to finish and how much I was going to give you for it.

Freddy......I really don't even need to ask you what you would do or say as a response to me "trying" to work out my fictional business proposal......realistically, to make a deal with you using those measures would result exactly how this fight ended...

What if I called you a beaner, said youre a crack head and before I agreed to let you work for me that you needed a drug test?:rofl.