Pac and Mayweather spoiled us

The only criticism i have is they didn't fight in 2009/2010 but outside factors and rumor played a part in that not happening. In hindsight i think both sides didn't actually want it and perhaps made a good decision from a financial point of view.

Paul Williams would have probably lost a decision to Floyd because he was too easy to hit but his size factor and relentlessness was always something boxing fans thought may trouble Floyd. The same argument could be said with Margarito because he's considered a ''warrior'' and a tough ''big'' welterweight. I think Margarito like Williams was always far too easy to hit clean and enjoyed getting into a war and throw defense out of the window.

I think both wouldn't have been ''easy'' fights for Floyd but i could see Williams hitting the canvas if the Mayweather who fought Marquez showed up. Margarito would just get jabbed to death whilst Mayweather would move and see Margarito's punches from a mile away. Margarito might land some good shots but i think Mayweather's solid chin would hold up to them.

I think given the speed of Williams he may have posed a tougher threat to Floyd than Margarito. I think ultimately Floyd would have landed the cleaner shots and would have eventually knocked down Williams on route to a points win.

The only potential fight i'd have like to see other than a 2009 Pacman would be the younger, faster but less smarter version of Shane Mosley. Who may or may not have been on some form of PED when he refused to fight Mayweather because he had ''tooth'' issues.

The Cotto win was a solid win. I think he beat a smarter version of Cotto than Pacquiao did but perhaps not quite as fast. Great wins for both.

 

Floyd will always get minus points in my view because of the manner of his victories (a-side deck-stacking), which gave the modern blueprint that Canelo is now following.

Floyd could have been top 10 ATG if he had a more adventurous side and didn't play the averages. He should have fought Manny in 2009/10, and given he agruably still would have won, it would have removed one of the biggest asterisks on his resume.

But of course, he only really showed interest in fighting Pac after KTFO6...

... which speaks volumes to me, Floyd was more of a businessman and less of a "legacy" fighter in many ways.

However, his resume is still DAMN solid, even with all the little nitpicks - he just could have been so much greater than he ended up being IMO.

 

Agreed, shout out as well to the og deck stacker and blueprint creator: Sugar Ray Leonard.
Who was basically the floyd of the 80's.

 

you could say the same about today's fighters. They' spoiled us with many top fights. Especially the WWs.

 

This type of logic is lost on trolls and dummies like you responded to.

 

Stop with this one sided **** and lazy biased analysis. PBF didn't wait for anything. It was Pac who turned down PBF back in 2009 because of testing not the other way around, those are facts.

 

This debate can go on for hours. Pac accepted enough testing that it would've made him impossible to cheat without getting caught. Random blood testing until 3 weeks before the fight, random urine testing all the way through, and a blood test immediately after the fight.

Floyd's request was unprecedented at the time and there was no reason for Pac to let Floyd dictate the testing protocol.

Ego's got in the way of the fight, and we never ended up seeing a prime Pac vs prime Floyd. It was more comparable to the RJJ vs Hopkins rematch, where neither was prime.

Anyways, for a true level fight, it would've had to be fought at a catchweight, to offset Floyd's natural size advantage.

People forget that Pac vs Floyd was nothing more than a fantasy fight for years. Pac vs any WW was considered ludicrous.

 

I don’t care to debate who is greater because they were both great. And yes they did spoil us with mega fights constantly. They also were much more skilled than the current champions and anyone on the p4p lists. Since then it’s been hard to watch the current champs and call them the best because of the ridiculously high standards Mayweather and Pacquiao set.

 

Neither wanted the fight.

Both camps played games.

 

Pacquiao should thank God for saving him from an execution by Spence.

 

Mayweather should thank god that he didn't share the same era as Hearns, Leonard or Duran.

 

Canelo and Usyk have solid resumes. Fury's resume is also incredible with his top victories. Bodybuilder is a granddad lover fraud.

 

Maybe but then again they did not have to face his excellence.