Pac, Arum and Roach ducking Floyd already???

neither is ducking neither.....i honestly think Mosley is stirring up intrest as well as Arum/Pac......i think they both trying to rasise the stakes for the fight das all.....these fights will happen.

 

if i were pac, i would totally duck mayweather...legacy of pac has been established, too much money already to spend in the phils, nothing to prove no more...

let mayweather cries on whom he will going to fight next...

maybe mayweather will call juanman, valero, etc...he's scared to fight a legit welterweight

 

I dont think its a matter that they dont want to fight, they just dont want to give Floyd all of his demands, 50/50 is fair when you consider that Pac is facing Cotto, came off two good wins in his last two fights scoring two knock outs one really only counts though DLH was a walking heavy bag, but the way he disposed of Hatton you cant say that **** wasnt hot...

Honestly Pacquiao has earned the right to demand for the higher share of the money, he has not only taken risk in moving up, but he has won impressive, The fans dont walk out on his fights, they know when Pacquiao fights they are going to see some ****.......

its not a matter of ducking its a matter of being paid what your worth and thats about it, They know Floyd will demand the higher share and basicly they are saying it right now, we are not giving up the higher share, so if your not willing to meet in the middle go kiss shanes ass...

 

That doesn't have **** to do with anything just more typical hater talk by you. Will you get serious for once?atsch
The PPV numbers don't support that argument Bazooka and at the end of the day the PPV buys is what counts the most since it brings in the most money. PBF is the current PPV king he has beaten Pac in every fight with common opponents the numbers don't lie man face it. PBF will demand a 60/40 split and rightfully so the numbers are on his side not Pac's.:deal

 

I dont give a **** what his PPV numbers show, I am talking about what they bring to the actual fights, Manny brings heat, who gives a **** less what Floyd PPV numbers show, with out big names those numbers wouldnt exsist......

60/40 goes to the P4P champion or no ****ing fight, I see no problem in that, if Floyd wants the fight bad enough, he is going to have to take a min of 50/50 or there just wont be a fight.

and in a way I kind of hope that Pacquiao tells Floyd to **** off and fight Shane, I hope Manny retires after Cotto, seriously, then what for Floyd? I honestly hope they hurt him in his pocket that would be better than watching Manny beat the **** out of him.....

 

I don't think anyone is ducking anyone...it's just the way things are regarding the egos of both fighters. If Cotto looses to PAC....and the PPV numbers are better than Floyd's vs JMM then we'll see an even harder time at the negotitation table for PAC vs Floyd. No one wants to give up the lions share and that is what is going to stall this fight.....but the money will be too much for anyone to ignore. It think this fight will happen if PAC beats Cotto. PAC is going to outclass Cotto during the 2nd half of this fight....the 1st half hella competitive, but PAC will pull away.

 

So because you don give a **** that means the numbers mean nothing.atsch That's what separates rational from irrational thinking. The numbers mean everything that's how the sport works the biggest draw gets the bigger payday. Whether you chose to accept it and live in denial is irrelevant.

Also where was this 60/40 going to the P4P champ thing when PBF fought Oscar? And Oscar was the bigger draw of the two. I didn't hear you singing that song then.hi:

 

Let's hold off on this for now, because the Pac-Cotto PPV hasn't happened yet. And you can't really hold the Pac-JMM PPV against Pacquiao because that was before Pac fought De La Hoya while FMJ-JMM was after Floyd was well-established mainstream.

And honestly, I don't think PPV generation is about who is the major draw, but more about how a PPV is promoted. The entire world knows that FMJ-JMM was promoted VERY, VERY, VERY WELL, and thus, the 1M PPV buys.

As for Pac-Cotto, I'm really not seeing much in terms of hyping the fight other than posters on the internet and the 24/7 teasers, but if Pac/Cotto can generate some big numbers despite the non-promotion (compared to FMJ-JMM) other than 24/7, then we can all go ahead and start arguing about splits.

 

Wow!!! really???

This makes no ****ing sense but it is coming from you..

Lets see I dont care which is the bigger draw..Meaning the one that brings the most money to the table from the fans, Pac should get more because he took on bigger risk by moving up and fighting pretty much the same guys that Floyd has also moved up to fight.

Of course you want Pac to not fight fight Floyd that is how haters work. You dont want him to fight Shane either, what you really wont is him to lose. If he fights shane and that dont happen you will ***** about that, and still be saying the same ****..OH he ducked this guy and wouldnt fight that guy.

You were one of those that claimed that Oscar would beat Floyd floyd had never faced anyone like Oscar, but once the fight was over you bitched about Oscar being shot, what would change in a fight vs Shane???

 

Thats boo-boo and you know it..Was Oscar vs Pac not promoted just as Oscar vs Floyd was??? did they not do 24/7??? Did Floyd vs Oscar still do a million more buys then Pac vs Oscar...

Wasnt the excuse before the Floyd JMM fight that Pac has his fighting during a bad time for the economy??? Wasnt the Floyd JMM fight during a bad time in the ecomony and didnt it still do almost three times as many buys, for a REMATCH of a highly famous and controversial first fight. Wouldnt you think that the out come of the first fight would have boosted the sells of the rematch???

Bottomline is Floyd is a box office hit, no matter how hard his haters try to make it sound like he isnt, and as such since boxing like every thing is is driven by money that puts floyd in the drivers seat just as it did for Oscar.

 

For once I agree with you. This match would be an easy UD for Floyd, hands down. Arum, Roach and Pacman HAVE to know this.

 

they should just sttle for 60-40 with the winner getting the lions share... both camp's pride are the only reason why this fight might not push through. i don't think there's ducking in those statements.

 

Fight like that dont happen, and in fact I think that in many States in the US its actaully illegal. You can base it on things like sell and ppv buys but not on who wins or loses. Fans always seem to call for 60/40 to the winner, but its not going to happen...

Way I look at it 40% vs floyd would be more then Pac would make getting 60% vs anyone eles. Im just not sure that can be said about floyd. Im not sure which fight is hotter right now floyd vs Pac or vs Shane or even Cotto should he win. I dont know that Pac vs anyone other then floyd would be a huge drop off for him, even Shane who would be seen as too strong and big for Pac, even if he were to beat Cotto.

Bottom line is Floyd as more options, not to mention he is in the drivers seat as far as money goes, and the P4P thing...Well how many tickets or PPV has p4p ever sold?? It didnt help Hopkins or Shane when they were p4p.

 

You think PBF should get the bigger slice of the money against Pacquiao? Or just settle for 50-50 for this big fight to happen?