PAC...as he goes up in weight punches are affecting a lot less...why

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  1. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    hi i dont want to feed into this whole bs about money vs pac
    and is pac on hgh or steriods but a guy in my boxing gym mentioned some very interesting....




    pac is not the first or last guy who is very successful in moving up in weight and winning belts, this has happened a lot before and will keep happening
    nothing odd there some fighters are actually better at fighting larger boxers etc BUT


    what is this, when he was from 122-130 guys like JMM and morales etc were hurting him with punches,

    then he moves up to fight bigger and stronger guys who are also elite

    and no he takes their punches like nothing,

    he would get hurt JMM who hit mayweather didnt do anything at all to him
    but now he is almost giving free shots to guys like cotto....

    this is just strange,


    as you go up in weight, the punches of the bigger fighters usually do more damage to you....

    now if he was a tall fighter killing himself to make weight it would sense, that he takes a punch better as he gets heavier but pac is not a large guy


    anyone who has even sparred in the gym will tell you,
    if a middleweight shakes you up with a shot, a heavyweight of smilar skill do will do a lot more then shake you up lol
     
    dabox, Mar 3, 2010
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  2. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    hi i dont want to feed into this whole bs about money vs pac
    and is pac on hgh or steriods but a guy in my boxing gym mentioned some very interesting....




    pac is not the first or last guy who is very successful in moving up in weight and winning belts, this has happened a lot before and will keep happening
    nothing odd there some fighters are actually better at fighting larger boxers etc BUT


    what is this, when he was from 122-130 guys like JMM and morales etc were hurting him with punches,

    then he moves up to fight bigger and stronger guys who are also elite

    and no he takes their punches like nothing,

    he would get hurt JMM who hit mayweather didnt do anything at all to him
    but now he is almost giving free shots to guys like cotto....

    this is just strange,


    as you go up in weight, the punches of the bigger fighters usually do more damage to you....

    now if he was a tall fighter killing himself to make weight it would sense, that he takes a punch better as he gets heavier but pac is not a large guy


    anyone who has even sparred in the gym will tell you,
    if a middleweight shakes you up with a shot, a heavyweight of smilar skill do will do a lot more then shake you up lol
     
    dabox, Mar 3, 2010
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  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Tell that to ricky hatton which is the most brutal ko of pac's career...awesome knockout...go check it out and than tell me his punches are less..
     
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  4. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    it is wierd ad i supose this and outer things ignited the suspicion
     
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  5. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    :huh
     
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  6. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he doent have to cut as much weight
     
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  7. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    they are bigger but slower and less accurate so PAC may avoid more
    than against Marquez or Morales at 130. Marquez at 143 is nothing
    compared to Marquez at 130, fat and slow


    ... what a trash talk, you know the steroids makes the only difference.
     
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  8. freethinker

    freethinker Member Full Member

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    Comprehension of topic fail.
     
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  9. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    One thing that may explain it (besides maybe he's doing PEDs) is that he's more in shape now because he doesn't have to cut weight before a fight...he actually has to concentrate on protein protein protein to GAIN weight which leaves him feeling strong and feeling like he can take bigger and bigger punches...especially if he sees the shots coming.
     
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  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Its as simple as that,but some knuckleheads think the guy is on steroids cause some crackhead says he takes something that makes you bullet proof.Its the blind leading the blind i say.
     
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  11. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    Fighting at a more natural walk around weight. Even though he's moved up in weight a couple hundred times, he's still solid muscle and has a thick neck and sturdy legs.
     
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  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I really don't think any REAL WW's has hit Manny like JMM was able to connect with Sharp, accurate and well placed punches that Manny didn't see. Cotto landed a few shots that Manny absorbed but he saw the shots coming and it looked like he was rocked, but recovered well like he's known to do. PAC has been getting HIT LESS...so I'm still suspect of how well he can take a FLUSH CLEAN SHOT THAT he didn't see coming
     
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  13. lankovski

    lankovski Member Full Member

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    exactly
     
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  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    got ya...this cali green had me messed up..my bad...
     
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  15. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    calm down

    its an interesting point ok not shredding weight will help but there seems to be a massive diferance in his durability
     
    hagman1989, Mar 3, 2010
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