PAC at #11 according to boxrec. Does the record speek for itself?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know I know he should be higher, at least at #2. He is duking nobody beside
    Guzman and he beat all Mexicans he could beside Guzman .....ups he is not Mexican :oops:.

    However if you think clearly, boxrec gives points not due to fighter popularity or how
    excited are his fans with his wins but its very valuable measure of the win quality.

    So if you beat somebody exciting but who have bad record then sorry it counts poorly.
    So no matter how you count, PAC do not have win over Marquez and his wins over Morales
    are just wins over shot fighetr with very bad recent record.

    Reasumming, the win over Barrera form 4 years ago and recent wins
    over Larios and Solis gives only #11 p4p ... record speaks for itself :smoke
     
  2. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Domngo you already agreed to bet so stick to it you moron.
    You don't have anything else to say then shut up yourself and give
    other people a chance to present their point of view.
     
  3. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you know the haters.... all talk no substance :good
     
  4. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You aready had your deal, now you don't have anything else to say then shut up.
     
  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well ... it would be great if you put some substance to the topic, will you?
     
  6. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you actually believed in boxrec rankings? wtf? and you left out pac's wins over morales. you're a really patheci hater dude. boxrec? please.

    if you believe in boxrec rankings then explain to me why the hell is chris freaking john at number 4! and if you're stating that the record should speak for itself, then no one else but pbf deserves to be number one. start explaining why you think boxrec is a good list. go!
     
  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oww snap. you're here saying that pac is **** and deserves the number 11 ranking because of his poor record and you post on another thread that you should swap pac and vasquez and everything's fine? you did that because you were being owned bad didn't you? damn man, you hate for pac and pacfans turned you to a complete idiot.
     
  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    See his unbeaten record, didn't he beat Marquez which was to difficult for PAC?
     
  10. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You wanna rater hide in the bush or post under different name than show
    your new Barrera avatar in every post, and you speaking about chicken? :scaredas:
     
  11. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PAC thread again?:rofl
     
  12. Stinky gloves

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    Yes records speak for itself, he isn't God he retired shot Morales and
    he did not beat Marquez, he was schooled by him for 11 rounds.
    He did enough to be at #11 p4p by the record book :smoke .

    I like him however to be within #3 because he is exciting fighter
    and most other guys who have better record are less exciting
    or fight less know names.

    Again PAC is future ATG but he is not God as you nuthugger thinks.
    His record is not as good as you try to convince people.
     
  13. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if you find any post by me saying that pac is god and that he retired an unshot morales or that he won against jmm, please post them here and i will be owned by you forever, if you don't, shut the hell up!

    he wasn't schooled by jmm for 11 rounds. get your facts straight. pac won the 1st round 10-6 for the 2 judges who scored it 115-110 or 10-7 for the judge who had it a draw, depends on who you ask. i'm not claiming that the judge who scored it made a mistake or something unlike nuhuggers.

    anyway, this means that even on the card of the judge who gave it 115-110 for jmm. pac still one round because if he didn't the score would have been 116-109 but it wasn't. so your claim that pac was schooled for 11 rounds is wrong because a fighter getting schooled can't win a round. get my drift?

    the thing with you is, you bash pac nuthugger for exagerrating but you are exagerrating to in you efforts to put down pac. you even said he has a poor record which anybody in the right mind will deny
     
  14. Stinky gloves

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    You are his nuthugger but not the bad one. I said his record is poor
    in therms of p4p status, Morales wsn't in his peak when he lost to PAc
    and PAC even not schooled was beaten for most of the fight or as somebody
    said OUT-TECHNIQUED by Marquez. PAC record is really great but get some
    reality, it do not warrant him to be #1 as you claim all over.

    What I want from you in all my posts is to show something whch
    might back up your claims for him to be #1 p4p.

    1) So is he really able to OUT-TECHINIQUE Marquez the next time?

    2) Was win over Morales the definig win of his career whch guarantee him be #1 p4p?

    3) Is he really top notch by agreeing to fight fading Barrera for the second
    time so he will have status "ATG killer" like Tarver had or maybe he should
    clean up the division and take finally on someone with the belt?

    Don't be shy give the answer, if you bak it up I will shut up with
    PAC threads for 3 months for free with PAC avatar for one month b
    onus regrdlees his Barrera fight.

    Can you back up your nuthuggery or not?
     
  15. Spitfire7

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    Only the uninformed and the casual fan go to, much more, believe Boxrec.:deal