Pac best fighter of last 30 years, RJJ close 2nd

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  1. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Good point, but you're wrong. 2 weight clases don't eclipse 4 or more.
    And please don't tell me about what leonard did at 168. I'll laugh too hard.
    And also, leonards "win" over hagler can be paralleled to pac's "win" over
    marquez, and duran got KTFO by hearns. So..........Once again. They had
    each other to share wins and losses. The primes version of RJJ, pac, and RL are the question and sugar stands behind them in terms of career acheivement.
     
  2. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Well a prime Leonard did beat Hearns, and Duran, which are still better than any victory by the other guys, you can also add Benitez to that list which was in '79. And yes Leonard lost to Duran while he was in his prime, but who exactly has Manny and Roy fought that was in a prime Durans caliber? Also if were talking primes here, when would you consider Pac to be prime? And a prime Jones biggest victories were against Toney and Hopkins, which are not better than Leonards victories.
     
  3. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Thomas Hearns has a pretty good career, in terms compared to pacquiao i think hearns is much much better. that is just my oppinon though, let me get that straight.
     
  4. THIBB

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    1. RJJ
    2. PBF
    3. Tyson
    4. sweet pea
    5. B HOP
    6. Chavez
    7. Pacman

    Pac is a ATG for sure tho but not higher than these guys imo
     
  5. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Pac is in his prime now. Ok follow me here. Morales, marquez, hatton,
    cotto, and soon margo. From..............126 to 154 lbs. Leonard. benitez,
    hearns, duran, errm hagler( not really, but OK) from 147 to 160. We're talking career acheivement here my fellow scribe. Not an era. Leonard had his own landscape to survey. Pac had to leave his nest and fly to unknown skies.

    Toney and hopkins doesn't compete with leo's record at that weight.

    But roy did the 100 year challenge. Leonard didn't. You may have concessions on leonard for RJJ, but for pac i can't give in.
     
  6. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bump. afficianados are posting. Take you drivel elsewhere armchair fan.


    Tyson? hopkins? Idiot!
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac is probably the best fighter since Leonard.
     
  8. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes, and he's acheived more too.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Leonard was probably a better fighter than Pac
     
  10. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    I see what you're trying to say, I know you said this isnt about the era, but the era has alot to do with it, man. I mean can you imagine Pac doing all he's done in Leonards era? Or can you imagine what Leonard would do in todays era? Pacs weight jumping is an incredible feat, but leonards resume is just too much for me to give Pac the nod here IMO. You do make some good points, but i respectfully disagree with your opinion.
     
  11. PekPek

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    Know what Kristo, I like your analysis....it makes complete sense. :bbb

    I like you. :good
     
  12. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    What a shock.
     
  13. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    No probably about that. Leonard was THE better fighter. No shame in that at all.
     
  14. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Listen Pacroid fans, Pacman hasn't won $hit, he is fighting at catchweights, how can you win a 147 crown if you make sure your opponent has to come at 144lbs, the same for the belt at 154lbs, he is asking for a 151lbs catchweight, there is no division at 144 or 151 pounds, stop the bull****, he is not even fighting the best at those divisions, 147 was PW, not Cotto, and 154-160 is Martinez and again PW, he loss to Marquez at LW and lucky with the draw at 126 or 130, and was schooled against morales, his last good fight. He is a hyped job full roids.
    here is the rael pacroid
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9321Mo2Gags[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus&feature=related[/ame]
    and look at my avatar if you think he hasn't used PEDS, I don't think this head is normal.
     
  15. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    I am talking about ppl better than Pac from the last 30 years , Jones does fit into that. As for thinking Pac is greater than anyone i mentioned you are crazy.