Pac best fighter of last 30 years, RJJ close 2nd

darryl1914 · Oct 30, 2010

christo said: ↑

Yes, you heard it here. Come argue your point if you can.

Pac has won a version of a world title in 7 and soon 8 weight classes,
and has consistently taken big risks and challenges that most thought
he'd lose. He's also fought in a valiant and entertaining way which is what
boxing is all about. (Why mayweather isn't being considered) RJJ did the same thing but chooses to fight on despite having lost all of his previous ability. (Still doesn't disqualify his acheivements) RJJ was also an entertainer like pac, and even more of one. He just hasn't taken quite the risks that pac has, or won as impressively. Each fighter is in a class of their own and the record books will say that for a long time to come.
You cannot name me a better fighter than these 2 from 1980 on.
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kolokomandos · Oct 30, 2010

Ray leonard all the way.

Rjj the second obviously.

elchivito · Oct 30, 2010

D-MAC said: ↑

Lets just end this debate here.

Pac had/has some very good wins. He's an outstanding fighter who dominated a lot of other very good fighters. He's a great fighter

And you can talk about fighting style etc, but the bottom line is this:

Ray Leonard beat "possibly" the greatest MW of ALL TIME in Marvin Hagler at MW.

Ray Leonard beat "possibly" the greatest LW of ALL TIME in Roberto Duran, admitedly at WW.

Ray Leonard beat one of the head-2-head worst match-ups of ALL TIME at WW, and one of the best WW's of ALL TIME in Tommy Hearns.

Ray Leonard beat (and stopped) one of the greatest of ALL TIME defensive technicians at WW in Benitez.
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:deal Best answer.

Bill Butcher · Oct 30, 2010

PH|LLA said: ↑

Pac is probably the best fighter since Leonard.
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He`s not better than Whitaker or Chavez & when Mayweather schools him he`ll drop beneath him too, he`s only ranked higher due to the weight jumping feats but he is certainly not a better fighter ability & skillwise.

Whitaker would make him look like a rank amateur & Chavez would suck the fight out of him & break him down for a late TKO.

Gesta · Oct 30, 2010

P4P I would say that Pacman is the best since Duran, but not the best from one weight.

Leonard, Sweet Pea, Hagler, Hopkins, Floyd etc... would all be ranked above him at one wieght.

His weight jumping is the diference.

TRUEBELIEVER 66 · Oct 30, 2010

Ali was still fighting in 1981, so it's an easy choice for me...

ALI:deal

rocky538 · Oct 30, 2010

Leonard.

garfios · Oct 30, 2010

Gesta said: ↑

P4P I would say that Pacman is the best since Duran, but not the best from one weight.

Leonard, Sweet Pea, Hagler, Hopkins, Floyd etc... would all be ranked above him at one wieght.

His weight jumping is the diference.
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You meant his catchweight trend? Or his big head (known side effects for roids users) Just take a look at my avatar.

Gesta · Oct 30, 2010

garfios said: ↑

You meant his catchweight trend? Or his big head (known side effects for roids users) Just take a look at my avatar.
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atschatschatsch

every one with a big head is on ped's?

why does every one (*****s) say that Pacman has never beaten a good, prime fighter, at their nat' wieght, then in the same breath say that he must be on ped's? must be on ped's to beat all these washed up , weight drained fighters?

bballchump11 · Oct 30, 2010

Gesta said: ↑

atschatschatsch

every one with a big head is on ped's?

why does every one (*****s) say that Pacman has never beaten a good, prime fighter, at their nat' wieght, then in the same breath say that he must be on ped's? must be on ped's to beat all these washed up , weight drained fighters?
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I guess Barreral lol. Name more for me if you please

Kevin · Oct 30, 2010

christo said: ↑

Yes, you heard it here. Come argue your point if you can.

Pac has won a version of a world title in 7 and soon 8 weight classes,
and has consistently taken big risks and challenges that most thought
he'd lose. He's also fought in a valiant and entertaining way which is what
boxing is all about. (Why mayweather isn't being considered) RJJ did the same thing but chooses to fight on despite having lost all of his previous ability. (Still doesn't disqualify his acheivements) RJJ was also an entertainer like pac, and even more of one. He just hasn't taken quite the risks that pac has, or won as impressively. Each fighter is in a class of their own and the record books will say that for a long time to come.
You cannot name me a better fighter than these 2 from 1980 on.
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Are you mentally ******ed? Perhaps starting to follow the sport the moment you joined this site. Manny wins the the tin collecting contest.

Gesta · Oct 30, 2010

bballchump11 said: ↑

I guess Barreral lol. Name more for me if you please
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The first fighter of the decade who is crap , 'cause he has never done any thing special, but must be on peds, to do the un special things that he has done?

Pacman is a natraul WW , who has only beaten shot \ weight drained fighters, so he must be on ped's?

:huh:huh:huh

pasky2000 · Oct 30, 2010

No fighter had more natural raw skills than Roy Jones Jr. since the 80's, not even Mayweather or Pacman match him in that department.

Thing is Jones' accomplishments are below Manny's at this point.

VX.Nefarious · Oct 30, 2010

i'd put

Duran
Leonard
Hearns

ahead of Pacquiao, i mean come on quit playing

VX.Nefarious · Oct 30, 2010

christo said: ↑

Yes, you heard it here. Come argue your point if you can.

Pac has won a version of a world title in 7 and soon 8 weight classes,
and has consistently taken big risks and challenges that most thought
he'd lose. He's also fought in a valiant and entertaining way which is what
boxing is all about. (Why mayweather isn't being considered) RJJ did the same thing but chooses to fight on despite having lost all of his previous ability. (Still doesn't disqualify his acheivements) RJJ was also an entertainer like pac, and even more of one. He just hasn't taken quite the risks that pac has, or won as impressively. Each fighter is in a class of their own and the record books will say that for a long time to come.
You cannot name me a better fighter than these 2 from 1980 on.
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:ban1

that **** is just funny, David Diaz?

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