Pacquiao beat the ATG's at or near prime that mattered: Barrera, Morales, Marquez. That was HIS era. Mayweather should be ashamed of himself that he didn't managed to knock out the semi-shot man with the smaller frame who has no business at welterweight in the first place considering he was a former lineal Flyweight champion. Instead, his come out party was only against the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Big difference.
Pbf is older than Pac. He beat pac rather easily to be honest proving once and for all he is the superior fighter. Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
Anyone that ****yzes every round can come to only one conclusion, that's fmj landed much more than pac. Sorry, that's a fact. The difference is, pac cult followers are so hurr they have to cut the fight into pieces to try making a claim that pac won. Fmj fans don't care enough and know exactly how that fight played out. You call my post idiotic, then claim you have video proof.. you have video proof of ONLY fmj beating pac in every facet of that fight. I could cut up ANY reasonably, even a fighter being outclassed, i can make a 3 to 10 hour video of any fight and make it look only how i want. I could easily make a nice cut up, waste of time video proving donaire embarrassed rigo. That's how useful your cut bias videos are. I have my video evidence that backs up my exact facts, you have a video that shows why your opinion varied from the masses. There's video "PROOF" as you claim that show jmm schooling pac ALL 4 times, but i know that's hurt fans trying to make the wound lesson, but the only proof is warching every second of every round. Not a whole 3 mins of action. The pac cult that couldn't handle it tried making video evidence that pac won, problem is there's a whole 1 to 2 minutes of actual action in the videos. Couldn't even come up with 10 mins of action. You'll never accept the only proof there was, anf always will be. On my dvr and slomo shows a clearer win for fmj, if watching each round. Too much to ask of you trolls
it was a gifted win, more careful examination of video evidence proves it, and you fluid fans cant seem to argue otherwise or come up with anything other than false arguments / logical fallacies. :rofl:rofl
LOL.. and where are these punch by punch ****ysis? I'm sorry but there are more actual ****ysis and breakdowns that clearly show pac land more punches. PERIOD. the rest of your post is complete utter drivel given that you fail on the first sentence. again.. show me an actual video punch count favouring your idol fluid. LMAO.. 1-2 min of action in the videos?? OMG DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE FIGHT? even artorias's "edited" punch count video of the fight lasted almost 10mins.. talk about eating your own words. AND the thing is, you donkey, those videos, showed all the punches that mattered from both sides, throughout the fight.. unless you want to count failed non-scoring punches, but i bet you don't even know how to score a punch in boxing.. and sure, slow mo and SHOW ME, all the punches you think count in favour of fluid, and let's argue, at least you will have something that might count for an argument. show me a vid of fluid winning on punch counts come on, I'm waiting..
You can't accept reality, fmj won and it can't be argued. I don't have the time to waste, if it was truly a fight that could go either way I'd humor you, but it can't be. I've studied every single minute of that fight and that's the only reason pacs stock went way up for me. He tried everything, he couldn't figure out how to penetrate fmj defense and when he tried he found a glove in his face or on his head time and time again. I loved the technical brilliance that was in the ring, from both. Their skills were kn full display. It's not like fmj gatti'd or cotrales'd him. He had to fight very smart and was still fully aware how dangerous pac was until the end, almost. Fmj lost any worry he had by the 11th round and was over confident, as pac started over confident. Difference was fmj built that confidence from the previous 10 rounds WITH PAC while pac built his confidence from roach and the media. There's a reason arum made roach and pac focus ONLY on the fantom shoulder "injury".. now anyone who studied that fight knows beyond any reasonable doubt pac was 100% throughout.
Your arguments are always awful. I think your arguments are so bad you need to pray to God for forgiveness for being weirdly dumb. Pac was semi-shot. That's what having an aggressive style rising the weight classes being in wars, being knocked out in one of the most brutal manners ever, being slowing down notably since 2011 (especially in the opinion of Mayweather himself who mentions this in such an emphatic way), being a former light flyweight where the expiration date of guys who spend the majority of their career in lower weight classes is quicker, risen up to welterweight where your power, speed, athleticism etc. are echelons lower, having a legitimate shoulder injury that Ellerbe was aware of, a bad camp due to the injury, unable to take a legal painkiller, against a guy naturally bigger than you who apparently was dehydrated and had the T/E ratio of a 128.5 year old man who got an IV which is commonly used in sports to mask PED use. That comment of yours shows you have no understanding of boxing history let alone the main principles in boxing. HOF'er Pipino Cuevas WAS past prime by 24 years old - this alone refutes your God awful argument. Repent to God for abusing your brain cells in such an awful way by being so ignorant.
Who is the ring general? Who controls everything that happens in the ring? Who's fighting who's fight?
I don't feel like going round and round with you in a long winded post dumbass. I have destroyed you multiple times yet you keep coming back because you're bitter because you were proven wrong. I'm done with you. Pbf beat pac is undefeated and is the best fighter of this era. Nothing you and the other bitter haters say will change it. Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
I strongly believe you're the one in denial, it can be argued over and over, and had been argued over and over.. the difference is that the argument for pac is based on strong evidence, derived from careful examination of video, which can be shown and pointed out while the argument for fluidd are mostly non arguments because they're mostly appeal to numbers, or appeal to authority, or false representations like people saying they'll show this and that, but end up not showing or proving anything.. and the killer here is your last statement about pac's "fantom" (it's "phantom" dummy) shoulder injury, when the injury was well documented, and photos even show in ***********. com showing hole marks indicative of one having gone through arthroscopic surgery. get real, mr zero no argumento.
The ring general is not the one getting more punched, countered, and generally more beat up, no matter how fancy he dances.