pac doesnt need mayweather he's cemented his legacy

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by amar1234, Jan 9, 2010.


  1. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight needs to happen plan and simple. Both men are great fighters, perhaps Floyd slightly better with his undefeated resume but both will go to the HOF and be considered in the top 10 p4p if all time. (Unless they pile up 3 or 4 losses in a row to close their careers, which I doubt will happen.)
     
  2. amar1234

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    This is true..honestly can any hardcore mayweather fans prove that pac is on steroids... much less prove that they said he was before the mayweather clan said he was... they should test roger and senior for crack(no racism intented its just obvious) then after they get arrested let mayweather fight pac without them in his corner... the extent mayweather is trying to f**k wioth pac is ridiculous...to be honest i think that if they do fight this will work against him...why...because pac values honor and be insulting his name will only make him angry... for some this will be seen as an advantage for mayweather because he will not be focused...however i think that given roach who knows the sport and these stupid mind games will use it to pac advantage... he will let pac be angry and train like never before to beat mayweather, and then a week before the fight instruct pac not to take the anger he has into the ring and surprise mayweather who will be expecting him to go all out from the first....despite what people say pac CAN box from the outside....on the inside he is formidable...however mayweather can box on the inside... i am just rambaling and saying whatever comes into my head but i believe that i do speak sense...this fight needs to happen and i sincerely both parties sort it out and make it happen wether it be march or a later date... this fight is vital for the sport...if bob arum and golden boy dont realise this then they dont deserve to be in boxing... i shamefully admit that i miss the don king's mega fights he organised...as much as he is a complete c**k and ruined fighters he generated interest in boxing that is unprecedented... when i was growing up(im 22) i loved the mega fights that were happening and i garnered my interest in boxing... now i watch fights from all divisions but my initial interest was from the mega fights... big fights need to happen to attract casual fans more firmly into boxing... once again sorry for the rant
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He sure has. That is why we are slapping that asterisk on all of his belts.
     
  4. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's 2010 -- we all know this already. That was last years general consensus. Pac's a fake. This year, let's just be concerned with getting Floyd in there with Mosley, if he's man enough. Fuk Pac
     
  5. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Bob Arum counts as a person?
     
  6. amar1234

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    Given that the pac mayweather fight never happens i would love for floyd to fight mosley...will it happen tho...based on the psychology of mayweather probably not... he doesnt care about legacy only money... it is a black mark on the sport that this is what has boxer has come to...i respect that they need to make a living but they can make a more than adequete living fighting the best, and it will be better for then in the long run... if mayweather doesnt fight the best he will ALWAYS have a question mark hanging over his head... he can remove this so easily by fighting top fighters AND winning...why he doesnt just baffles me
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    STFU! Team Pac ended negotiations not Team Mayweather. Why did they end them? They couldn't weasel out of blood testing.

    Tell us a top fighter NOT in the Arum camp? Manny is fighting Top Rank fighters because they won't ask him to test.

    He is a cheat. Point blank.
     
  8. amar1234

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    Tell me exactly when you believed pac was taking PED's
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly I NEVER believed he was taking PED's. I took that crap Mayweather senior said as just rantings of a funny old man.

    The moment I knew was when his camp got all erratic. First they said, "Sure." Then Arum, an 80 year old man, had to get on a 15+ hour flight to talk to a man about taking the fight. Then the weirdness just continued to increase. He became scared of random testing. He gave huge testing cut off dates. He became "scared of needles", but has jailhouse/homemade looking tattoos. He became scared of blood, but a 24/7 surfaced with him happily giving blood.

    After all of that? It was pretty obvious for me. I did NOT go into this thinking Manny was dirty. I hated Arum, but I had no ill will toward Manny. Don't believe me? Check my post history.
     
  10. amar1234

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    I believe you...but come on some one who has never even been suspected and has had blood tests through out his career documented and has never even remotely been suspected...i more than most pray to whatever god there is out there that he is not on ped's, and i dont believe he is... take a look at his past history and his personality... he is a classy upright honorable person...there is no reason what so ever to accuse pac of being on ped's tell me why you think other wise... with regards to the whole blood testing in general... i do not believe pac has had as much say in the matter as we have been led to believe... also wether you want to accept it or not but as long ago as morales fight he believes personly that blood test weaken him.... we all know that a psychological issue is a major factor in boxing...just look at tyson...he psychologically won most of his fights due to the intimidation he caused...should we gang up on pac for this??? my opinion no... taking a blood test straight after the fight is more than fair... if he was juicing then he would more than likely be doing during training so a 30/24 cut off is completely acceptable...if he was using it would more than likely show up during his training than on fight night.... its all stupid...pac and mayweather need to fight... mayweather IS ****ing this up not pac... and it is his loss. by beating pac he could prove he is THE BEST... petition for the fight people
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He hasn't blood tested under Olympic standards.

    See here is another thing I have issue with. Quit talking about his personality. You don't know him just like I don't. Just like we didn't know Tiger woods. Google "Jinkee Pacquio cheating" and see what comes up and then you will get a better idea of the "type of person he REALLY is". I don't hold that against him. I don't know anything about his personal life. I just want him to box, but I also don't hold that in his favor.

    Blood test sucked at lower weights because he was CUTTING WEIGHT. This is no longer an issue. He can eat and drink away. So the 14 day cut off issued is more than fair.

    We SHOULD gang up on Pac for NOT BEING CONSISTENT. You know the quickest way to get the cops on your ass after giving a statement? Keep changing it.

    Open your eyes and quit being a sheep. Think for yourself.
     
  12. amar1234

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    I think that you need to think for yourself....theres as much evidence for pac using ped's as floyd so why say he is using...pac has submitted to numerous blood test and guess what.... they all came back negative.... if you give me proof of pac using i will happily leave this website
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    LMAO! What evidence is there of Floyd using PED's? Floyd would be taking the EXACT same tests as Pac! So the testing would be the SAME for both guys with a history of being clean.

    Like I said, Team Pac created this cloud of suspicion by CONSTANTLY changing their story. He needs to clear his name. Test.
     
  14. amar1234

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    I agree that pac needs to take the test simply to prove to everyone he is not using, but why is taking a test 30 days before the fight and straight after not acceptable??
     
  15. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am no expert so you would have to check with them. There stories are all over the net AND on ESB. Search around a bit. Every expert in the field of dopingto weigh in has sided with Mayweather, dopers and anti-dopers. Not ONE expert has sided with Pac. Not ONE!

    This to me says something.