Pac fans, be honest, did Pac REALLY beat Marquez ???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bill Butcher, Jul 12, 2008.


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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I take nothing away from Manny Pacquiao but I struggle to think of him as thee best fighter in the world unless you are meaning excitement.

    He is certainly 1 of the best but I watched the Marquez Pac rematch & I was rooting for Pac as I feel he is the more exciting fighter & with youth on his side & his improved (tho not as improved as some would like to think) boxing skills, I felt sure he could beat Marquez but no, yet again, he floors Marquez but doesnt finish him & gets countered all fight long.

    Dont get me wrong, it was a close fight & there have been far worse decisions in boxing but here`s the thing.... this fight was actually pretty easy to score & just about everybody I know thats seen the fight had it even going into rd 12.... & Marquez won that rd.

    Marquez should have gotten the verdict & this is Pacquiao in his prime, thats my problem with him being called p4p no1.

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    Bill Butcher, Jul 12, 2008
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  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    when i watched it live, i feel that it was really a close one that it could be another draw or someone have snatched it via a SD either pac or marquez. i wathed it again with a clear copy and counted each rounds and there are about 4 close rounds. if i split those 4 rounds i can get 114~113 pac due to the kd.

    if you feel that marquez took it i have no problem since it's a close fight. but to say that marquez clearly won the fight is absurd.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Jul 12, 2008
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  3. criollo

    criollo fearless Full Member

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    it was such a close fight!!ive seen it 4 times and it could be argued evenly.
     
    criollo, Jul 12, 2008
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  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    Yes the second time arround... when i watch the top rank coverage i thought marquez SD but when i saw the HBO version (different angle shots) i was convinced that pac did enough to win.
     
    enzo, Jul 12, 2008
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  5. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Yes, i can confidently say Pacman won that fight without feeling I was reaching but can understand how people felt Marquez won. The 12th round was close but a round that Marquez should of won, the 1st round is what gets me crazy when people say it was Marquez's round when it was clearly a round for Pacquiao.
     
    Boom_Boom, Jul 12, 2008
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  6. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    I scored 1st fight for Pac(the fact it is the judge error scoring) and the 2nd fight as a Draw.
     
    Nestea, Jul 12, 2008
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I scored the first one a draw and the second one for Marquez.

    But I think the calls of robbery where the second fight is concerned were excessive. Too close for that.
     
    McGrain, Jul 12, 2008
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  8. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Yes, Pacquiao won the fight with Marquez. It was a close fight that could have gone either way. Every time those two fight it will probably be exactly like that.
     
    sugarngold, Jul 12, 2008
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  9. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    i expect divac to defend marquez claims of robbery (and also posters who used to pick on pac's achievements):verysad

    i scored it a draw for both fights
     
    jupzrooni, Jul 12, 2008
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  10. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As far as Divac is concerned. JMM NEVER NEVER NEVER lost in any of his fights! I said it many times but he never contradicted it

    Believe me!
     
    Silvermags, Jul 12, 2008
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  11. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had 113-112 for Marquez in the first fight and 115-112 for Marquez in the second. I gave Marquez rounds 1 and 7. Pac might have won the 1st, but the 7th was close round to Marquez, IMO.
     
    gambleer, Jul 12, 2008
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  12. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    Pac got the gift decision.

    Losing to Marquez unofficially is no big deal though IMO
     
    DobyZhee, Jul 12, 2008
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  13. Simple100

    Simple100 Active Member Full Member

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    PAC won that fight in a razor thin decision. I watch it many times 114-113 for PAC...
     
    Simple100, Jul 12, 2008
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  14. this bloke

    this bloke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i scored it to pac, with the kd winning it for him
    but can definitely see how people had marquez winning,it was very close
     
    this bloke, Jul 12, 2008
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  15. dits

    dits Active Member Full Member

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    Could've gone either way and I wouldn't have begrudged either Pac or JMM for the win. Just too many close rounds.
     
    dits, Jul 12, 2008
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