Pac fans, be honest, did Pac REALLY beat Marquez ???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bill Butcher, Jul 12, 2008.


  1. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    im a big pac fan but i think jmm deserved the nod both times.
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutley! Pac won clearly in the 2nd fight and even though the first fight was closer b/c of the tremendous countering of JMM, he in all reality should have lost....Of course everyone knows why PAC ended up with a draw and Juan was able to hold on to his title.

    The 2nd fight was a clear winner for PAC. I was in a room split down the middle of 27 fight fans....some hard core others casual and 95% all had PAC winning by 2 points or more.....2 guys (Mexican):lol: Had the fight for Juan (go figure). I believe JMM is still close to his prime and the 1st fight with PAC and JMM...JMM was in his prime while PAC was still learning and getting better.

    PAC is just a better fighter pure and simple. JMM is technically a better "BOXER" but there is no one in or around his division who is more of a fighter than PAC. Most of the times boxers beat the fighter but PAC is a special talent and defies odds for whatever reason. It's hard to accept something that doesn't fit the "norm" but at some point people have to believe what they see or continue to go on in life in denial.....which many people are on this board. It's really not a good look.
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thouht MAB beat Jmm too. By at least a point or two. But it was a very close fight....many rounds almost too close to call, but A "W" for JMM isn't a robbery.

    PAC actually did far better than MAB did against JMM and to me it was a clear victory for PAC the second go round.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I thought JMM beat MAB & Pac recently.
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    If you are watching it and scoring it, how do you get a SD???? :rofl :patsch What did you fill out 3 cards and one in favor of Pac :huh
     
  6. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    I had Pac winning. 7-5 Pac dropped him , and he was clearly landing the harder punches.
     
  7. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's your opinion that jmm won both fights! it's ok it's an opinion

    but DISGUISING yourself as a PAC fan remains to be seen.

    Check all your thread if you ever praised pac.

    Hatton, yes! a thousand and one times :yep
    Praising Pac as a pac fan....:huh :verysad
     
  8. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JMM took the last one for sure
     
  9. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    What i meant was... i was in agreement with the judges decision but the SD should have favored JMM. :lol: :patsch
     
  10. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Hard to say judges scored the way they do..they are ringside..they hear the punches, they have better angles...who did more damage, whos punches were harder...

    whats the big deal? both fights are close..it will never change..JMM was Pacs kryptonite and yet the record books and history still says 1 draw and 1 win by Pac..what does that say about Pacs greatness?
     
  11. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    as i've said before, i scored it 114-113 for jmm. there were two very close rounds. i can't remember anymore what they are and i gave them both to jmm because of anti-bias. so if one of those was scored for pac, he'd be the winner. this **** was close as it gets. i pac did not KD jmm in the third, it would have been a draw
     
  12. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    **** yeah he did.
     
  13. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    jmm beat pac 2 times and i decided not to post in this thread cos i keep repeating myself


    ---- selfkill
     
  14. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had JMM winning by a point however I have no problem with Pac winning. It was a very very close fight.

    By the way, i like Apple Danish
     
  15. jaco

    jaco Thomas Hearns Full Member

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    Both were close fights, however I feel JMM won the first one 113-112 and the 2nd 114-113. You can make a case for Pac winning both, however I feel JMM is unlucky not to have gotten the decision in atleast one of them.