Pac/floyd in jeopardy! Pac refuses drug test!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by perfect jet, Dec 22, 2009.


  1. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Testo cap Andriol is supposedly a super duper one that gets out of system really quickly. That is as much as i know on this subject. Like you said new things coming out weekly which is very hard to keep track of :-(
     
  2. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yep. too hard to police. just let em have at it.
     
  3. RayKelly

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    I had a quick read on a bodybuilding forum and it seems that it doesn't have that great an effect by itself. It does leave the body quickly but you have to eat a heap each day and some people have reported minimal increases in testosterone levels even after weeks of use.
     
  4. Contendo

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    I'll think you'll find your incorrect there Jet, the system isn't 'flushed' straight after. Metobytes I think there called, are a breakdown of any product placed in the system and can be tested / traced for months. I know having been involved with the horse racing game in the past, they freeze all samples also and can back-test in the future.

    You will also find (again my understanding from the testing people I have spoken with in the past) that urine is a better sample for testing, over and above blood. Maybe someone like Ray Kelly can elaborate/expand on that further?

    If Pac is using something, I would be immensely disappointed, however I think this is just part of the mind games, you say black, I'll say white so to speak. I think he's a once-in-a-generation fighter, who simply has kept growing and at the end of the day, he's 30-yrs of age, so he's a fully grown man, fighting at his optium weight.

    For what it's worth, a blood test 30-days out, ****ing hell, please, either side just do it. It won't effect jack**** of preparations. ****ing new born kids get more jabs for this and that and stop crying after a minute!
     
  5. Contendo

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    I can certainly say I have never seen any athlete I know take EPO/Steroids or for want of a better term - performance enhancers.

    However I seriously have doubts about a number of fighters, two in particular within the Featherweight division who hold major body belts.

    Their performances and builds on both their parts, especially at Featherweight leaves a great deal to be desired in the credibility stakes. Again, in my opinion only.

    As we all know, there have been numerous boxers who have been caught. At times, the money on offer would tempt them all to have a look at taking it. That don't make it right and also doesn't say in a sweeping generalization that all are doing it. I am saying that the tempt would be there to perform and get into the right fights, or perform better in the right fights.
     
  6. WhataRock

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    ^ Dont diuretics like "flush" out your urine of stuff like steroids though?

    Isnt that why they banned them in some sports and why warney got into trouble?
     
  7. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've had suspicions allllllll along to be quiet honest. I hope for Pacquiao's and boxing's sake it's not true, but how many would truly be surprised if it was.
     
  8. teke

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    Yeah i've been told what you've just written. I know a couple of ppl on this type of drug and they have put on a little bit of size. I reckon there are a few NRL players who have more knowledge than you or I on this subject :yep
     
  9. teke

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    Yeah I think that's one of the reasons why Diuretics are banned. It cleans out the urinary system. Used in insane ways you can lower your body weight DRAMATICALLY, you can get rid of a shitload of fluids within 24 hrs. Stuff you really shouldnt be doing.
     
  10. teke

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    Imagine letting anyone have whatever they want.

    Drug Companies around the world would be tattooing their sponsored athlete :lol:
     
  11. app80

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    Rojas & Cruz?
     
  12. perfect jet

    perfect jet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A needle puncture will upset his sparring???

    Ray, please. Never heard anything more ridiculous brother :patsch :D
     
  13. LeonMcS

    LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton Full Member

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    I reckon hes refering to a couple of stablemates...
     
  14. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gotta agree with you there mate. I'd be more worried having Tim Bradley pounding on my mug than a needle...