Pac in Perpective

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TeflonDom, Dec 28, 2009.


  1. TeflonDom

    TeflonDom Active Member Full Member

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    I'm probably one of the most dubious people when it comes to the subject of Pac and his alleged performance enhancing drugs allegations.

    Personally, I feel that the likelihood of Pac being a genetic freak is outweighed by the potential benefits that cutting edge blood doping can provide.

    Pac's weight gain through the years is normal and acceptable. What raises suspicion is his remarkable increase in performance levels. You look at the rigours Ricky Hatton has to go through just to get to an acceptable fighting weight. If people want to start throwing serious allegations about drug cheating, Hatton with his dramatic weight loss should also be on the radar.

    However, Hatton has always shown the effects of a natural limiting factor, whereas Pac has busted straight through.

    If the Pac phenomenon was happening in the 60s or 70s, when medical science wasn't as advanced as it was today, I'd put my hands up.

    But we have to be realistic. Science is 99% and fairytale is 1% in the modern world.

    In all honesty, do you look at Pac without the slightest shade of doubt?
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac's performance against Barrera is still his best performance to date. I don't think anyone believes he was juicing back then. The man is a physical phenomenon, yes, but he's also a supremely skilled fighter with amazing accuracy and excellent defense and generalship. And I think that fact goes unseen by alot of fans.

    One of his sparring partners was saying in an interview how Pac targets specifics spots on the chin to increase the damage. Against Oscar and Hatton, he was not only landing at an extremely high percentage but also getting hit very little. Against Diaz I don't think he was hit by a single meaningful punch. Cotto landed a few big shots but not that many and PED's or not I never expected that Cotto would knock out PAcquiao with the first flush punch he landed.

    Alot of Pac's work goes unnoticed. In his fight against Cotto, Pac's first flurries were easily being thwarted by Cotto's superior power and strength. And even though he didn't let it show Pac was definately hurt in taht fight. But eventually he broke Cotto down. Not by overpowering him or outspeeding him but by taking away all of Cotto's best weapons (his jab and hook) and then exploiting the holes in Cotto's defense.
     
  3. thatguy

    thatguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No one persons opinion makes Pac look like he is on roids, pac has made ppl suspicous by not agreeing to the tests and his promoter changing his mind every single ****in day.
     
  4. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like his fight with JMM the 1st one best. It was an awesome performance.
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I thought the 2nd one was even better.
     
  6. Xanthro

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    I don't look at Pac with even the slightest shade or hint of doubt.

    It would be difficult to get a banned substance past all the testing, and nothing I've seen of Pac indicates anything that even hints of unnatural growth.

    Yes, he started at 106 lbs, when he was a teenager. I weighed 113 at the same age, and I'm 3.5 inches taller than Pac.

    Pac's weight has gone up at almost the same rate mine has (my lagged a little behind Pac's, since I'm not a boxer and wasn't working on building muscle). I've never taken any steroids or anything to increase weight.