Pac is dangerously close to becoming a full-blown Cherry-picker!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Spitbucket, Aug 28, 2008.


  1. Suge Green

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    I don't believe in giving fighters free passes, and Pac is not getting one here.

    The poster STiNG is correct with his analysis of the situation. This is probably just a back handed slap at PAC anyways...
     
  2. mexican legend

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  3. Sting

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    But everyone is also not holding it against Pac and recognizes that even though Pac is doing it for the money, he's also risking his career with this fight. You can twist it all you want. But the fact remains that Pac still has alot of things to lose by taking this fight. Maybe the money will make it easier for him, but it doesnt change the fact that its STILL gonna hurt him especially since he's still VERY MUCH intent on fighting on after this fight. A loss against DLH could shatter any fight against Hatton or any of the 135lb fighters in the future. Not to mention he could be seriously HURT.

    Heck, there was even an article here just right before the negotiations "broke down" a few weeks ago where it says that Pac is still considering Soto and Valero as possible opponents besides DLH. So how is that cherry-picking? I can post the article here, if you want.

    You talk about consistency yet you yourself are far from being one as well, Mayweather was labeled a cherry-picker, BUT not against DLH. But even if he was, your STILL inconsistent with what your doing. Tito has fought Oscar, Vargas has fought Oscar, Mayorga has fought Oscar, SSM has fought Oscar TWICE. Should we also say that those fighters we're cherry-pickers simply because of the money and "calculated risk" they took? Considering the fact that all those fighters had a MUCH higher chance of beating Oscar compared to Pac. So I guess they're even bigger cherry-pickers than Pac, eh?
     
  4. Stovepipe

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    what he said
     
  5. Spitbucket

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    Talk about twisting things around:patsch

    Oscar/Tito, Oscar/Vargas, Oscar/SSM were all competive fights that needed to be made. Not circus acts like this fight is turning out to be.

    You can try and justify this farce all you want but in the end it's all a well calculated choice by Pac, and a punk move by DLH!:deal
     
  6. Stovepipe

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    another good post

    to add to that, what could possibly be a bigger challenge at 135 for Pac than what DLH presents at 147 Pacquiao? Now personally, I would rather see him fight against the 135'rs, it is a more organic challenge than moving up so far, Oscar is killing at least two or maybe more, much more palatable fights - Oscar vs Margarito, and Pac vs Soto followed by the best of 135

    Is Soto a more dangerous opponent for Pac than DLH? Because that is who is available right now. If you want to say he could have had his pick at 135 , which is probably true, are any of them more dangerous than DLH? Campbell? No. JMM3? No. Guz? No. Casa, Juan Diaz, Kats? No, no, no.
    Peterson? Kahn? no and no. Valero? nope

    Were DLH and Baldo and Hatton dangerous for Mayweather? Yes, slightly, and slightly at best, respectively. And I am going by the public perception. My perception was that all three fights posed some danger for Mayweather at the time. However, even I knew that there were MUCH more dangerous fights for Mayweather all over the weltwerweight division.

    And THAT is the difference between Pac and Mayweather. DLH is far more dangerous for Pac than 135, however, DLH and than Hatton were certainly not far more dangerous for Mayweather than Cotto / Margarito / Williams.

    With that said, everyone on this planet is trying to get the biggest reward for the least risk so I can't blame them too much. What I blame is the boxing media for not hanging DLH for ruining Margarito vs DLH and Pac vs Soto, followed by Pac vs the best of the rest at 135. DLH killed two more organically interesting fights - two more natural fights, to give us this freak show.

    That said, I of course will be excitied and watching and cheering Manny on. I think anybody that loves boxing will be rooting for Manny this time. DLH is the one that is cherry picking. He saw a ripe easy to reach fruit named Manny Pac and didn't want to stick his rich spoiled hands deeper into the thorns to try and get to the one labeled Margarito.

    But I see it as a disgrace. Margarito would probably take the fight for 25%.
     
  7. Sting

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    LOL! Circust acts =/= cherry picker. It IS a circus act BECAUSE of the SIZE. It is NOT a circus act because Pac chose to "cherry pick" a stronger and bigger fighter(you realize how ridiculous you sound?). :lol::rofl

    You have NO basis for an argument. If Pac, who has a HUGE disadvantage against DLH, is called cherry-picking. Then surely SSM and the others who were on EQUAL footing with DLH should also be called cherry-pickers. There's no way around it. Dont twist **** up.

    If someone is gonna make money fighting someone who has no chance of beating him then there's something wrong. But if someone is gonna make money fighting someone who is HEAVILY favored to KO him, there's not alot of wrong with it because despite the money, your still risking yourself in there.

    NEWS FLASH Spitbucket!! EVERYBODY fights for money. If Oscar offered your boy JMM a fight, then JMM will no doubt take it because of the huge payday. Its not necessarily a bad thing mind you. Its the PURPOSE behind that decision to take the fight that could be a bad thing.
     
  8. Spitbucket

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    No **** skippy:patsch

    By all means please continue to fool yourself with this little semantics game you're playing here:lol:
     
  9. Sting

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    :good I guess when your at the top, there's always gonna be people who will bring you down no matter what decisions you make.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    just make a poll to end this ****.
     
  11. Spitbucket

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    So you need other people to do the thinking for you:think
     
  12. Sting

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    Basically what your saying here is you have no way to disprove what I said. So you resort to insulting. Very mature. But I won't be angry(and stoop to your level) or even blame you for it. I mean virtually everybody in this thread is against you so I understand what your feeling. Everybody makes mistakes, so thats ok. :good:yep
     
  13. Spitbucket

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    SO now you're using the "everybody" bit, how very consistent of you:good
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    not really. so that you will know if your opinion is reasonable or not. and if people would agree with you that pac is a cherry-picker then props to you. common now man, do it.
     
  15. konaman

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    I expected this **** from DLH but it is also annoying that Pac is exchanging a loss for a big pay check.