Pac knocks out sweet pea or Looks stupid trying?

I thought you were a poster capable of having a real debate... guess not...

In order to face him, yes... But he can face this version of Mosley and still get support from fans like you without question so why the hell would he?

Floyd: "Random testing up until the fight or no fight"
Team Pac: "We'll do 7 days out"

*** Based on what happened***
Team Mayweather: :huh "He said no cutoff or no fight"
Team Pac: "We'll do 7 days"
Team Mayweather: "No negotiations took place"
*** Based on what happened***

Mayweather's legal issues start piling up.

Pac: "I'll take whatever tests Floyd wants"

 

Yes I have...

obviously that's all you saw....

 

You thinking Pac ONLY agreed to the testing when Floyd legal trouble started is no different then Floyd insisting on new tests the moment Pac was seen as a legit threat.

 

:huh Floyd doesn't even move around that much anymore. Let alone like he used to when he was smaller.

 

Out of those 50 fights who had the best movement to judge how reacts to movement? We've seen Pac struggle with the limited times he's faced movers and none of them have been near Sweet Pea's level... I again ask why he won't/wouldn't fight more movers in these 50 fights you speak of?

 

It's not any different... So it should be stated because these guys act like it's NOT a possibility. And why? Bcuz Pac's a good guy, Floyd Sr.'s a crackhead, etc...

 

But you only believe one of those scenarios to be true, the one favoring Floyd.

 

He doesn't but I'm not seeing anyone else around that weight around this time that would give Pac any looks like that. And I still feel that the current movement he would give Pac would frustrate him..

 

Yes sir! But that's mostly influenced by the fact that I think he'd dodging the **** out of this random blood test up to the fight.

 

Singsurat had great movement, Ledwaba had great movement... Off the top of my head...

from what we've seen Pac have problems with it's boxer punchers.. I can't see these slick styles giving him the same problems, cause Pac can close the distance as fast as anyone ever has.. He doesn't need to corner his man cause most so called slick fighters don't do well with fast sluggers who also use excellent movement.. it's a matter of not getting away with the showboating they use on slower flat footed guys..

 

None of your guys' scenarios make sense because Manny is NOT a one-dimensional head hunter and Pernell is NOT a feather-fisted fighter. It's not inconceivable that Manny would knock out Whitaker just as it's not inconceivable that he'll knock out Floyd. It's also not inconceivable that Whitaker would make Manny look foolish. You guys take it as an absolute that Manny CANNOT deal with ATG counter punchers or that low KO percentage means Manny will walk through him.

Firstly;
This is a fantasy match-up. ANYTHING can happen. If you refuse to believe it's possible that Pacquiao could outbox Whitaker, you either haven't watched much boxing or you refuse to remember all the things you've seen. MUCH stranger things have happened than an ATG boxer being out boxed by an ATG puncher. It's always possible that Sweet Pea could knock the Pacman out, as well. Neither scenario is very likely, but this is boxing. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!

Secondly;
Pernell has decent power. Low KO percentage just means that he doesn't fight as aggressively as a Manny or a Mosley. He has enough power to keep you from walking through his punches, and that's all he ever really commits to.

Thirdly;
Manny has good boxing skills. He has brilliant footwork and is very adept at moving in and out. He throws punches lightning fast at odd angles which are VERY difficult to defend against. He moves his head well when he chooses to and has very unorthodox defensive maneuvers. He is anything but one-dimensional.

Lastly;
There is no clear way this fight would go. You can say how you would believe this fight would go, but that doesn't mean your opinion is fact and others are wrong. This a boxing discussion on a fantasy match-up that will never happen. There's no need to get so defensive on simple opinions.

 

Unfortunately I have found that there are some pac doubters that would not listen to logic... you try to have a debate with them and they bring up things like "these *******s..." bla bla bla

Show me one of my post that say I support the mosely fights, From what i read most pac fans would rather not have the mosely fight at all. I would rather he fought mayweather, jmm (although getting old) berto.

Pac agreed to 7 days before all this court trouble, so I dunno how you got confused there

 

I think Sweet Pea will win this one easier than most will say or agree. Manny last few opponents have been guys that love going foward or trading. We seen Cotto successful in the first few rounds when he was boxing Manny esp with the jab. Marquez was timing Manny lovely another example. Sweet Pea could have done this for 12 rounds easily. Not only that but Sweet Pea could take shots as well from the very best:deal

 

All I saw? you making up facts there bro...

You cant fight someone that will run , cotto might as well turned his back and run in that fight.

You cannot say Pea would be running round like Cotto, who was beaten to a pulp and scared shitless of getting Knocked out.

Boxing and running away arent the same thing

 

:good From what I've seen Pac's doing his opponents like he is due to his speed and their lack of... Pac throws off balance and I don't see a good counter puncher having Pac get off 7 punch combo's if he's actually connecting. Pac gets visually frustrated when he doesn't connect like he wants.. I feel this is why he faces targets who will always be in front of him.