Pac-man: Cotto having tough time to make 145

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  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    He will be close to 160.
     
  2. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he does not fight well going backwards fam...he throws wide when going backwards....pac comes in throwing punches and he will crush cotto if he goes backward....his defense looked good in the marg fight because marg throws slow heavy punches likewise with clottey....pac is a different monster who throws all his punches with power and the right hook is gonna be the finisher in this fight
     
  3. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see this possibility. But unless it comes from a Psycologist that analyzed Cotto this is just an opinion. Nobody really has a way to know this. I go more with his training. I think Cotto thought he was invencible after the Mosley fight. I am a Cotto fan. I used to live 5 minutes from the Bairoa Gym and used to see Cotto running. But still, I hated the way he was showing off when he beat Gomez. I hate when a fighter does that. And he tried to do the same at the beginning of his fight with MArgarito. So far every video I have seen of Cotto training shows a too comfortable Cotto. Enjoying too much. I am a fan of training until it hurts. Hard work. May be he is training that hard. But I haven't seen it. I saw it in Manny's video's.
    That's why, even when my heart is with Cotto, I think Manny might win this one.
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    this guy seems to contradict himself in every post. i'd say the upcoming fight is making him really nervous... :D


    "I'm rooting for cotto but my wallet is on pac"... isn't that a contradiction? it's like you're cheering for cotto so you'll lose some cash. :lol:
     
  5. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    you sound more like a ******* than a cotto fan with this post. :lol:
     
  6. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DO you have a problem reading?? Or you are just too stupid??? I already answer that. Cotto didn't offer ****. He was answering a Manny offer when he said he wasn't going to go under 145lbs. I didn't say HBO offer ****!! What I say is HBO is giving Manny the power to do that. Especially with the P4P bull****. A list that doesn't exist. The Ring has one, HBO has one, Boxrec has one, you have one, I have one, everybody has a different ****ing P4P list!!!
     
  7. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i love esb...but yea...everyone who knows boxing knows that the smart money is pac by ko between 4-7 rounds..... i love cotto look at my avatar but im being a realist and know that this cotto has slim to no chance of winning...the cotto that fought marg for the first seven rounds would be a problem for anyone....but the cotto i saw against jennings and clottey albeit the big cut, just doesnt seem capable of sustaining a capable attack of slowing pac down...war cotto !!!! but pac by ko in 4...maybe he proves me wrong but i just dont see anything remote that would change my mind otherwise
     
  8. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    its not a contradiction dick face...im boricua and of course i root for my countrymen(except kermit cintron) and i have all the most respect for cotto and im saying if i had a choice to pick a winner i would pick cotto by 9th rd ko...but im betting this week and my wallet said pac-man by ko between rounds 4-7..
     
  9. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Get this into your head!! Pound per Pound is a promotion concept used by HBO. there is not official P4P list. But whoever HBO say its the P4P #1 has the Money power to negotiate. That is why manny can ask for whatever he wants. When in fact, he is just a challenger in this fight.
     
  10. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol...Yo, you don't know **** brah. Leonard, Robinson, DLH, Jones, Pep, ARmstrong...all faught at catch weights in their day. Manny never had problems making 130! He had problmes making 112, but never 130.
     
  11. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    im being a realist...whoever is betting money on cotto will be disappointed....i could tell that your not a boxing fan...i could tell that your only going for the hot hand which is pac....im going for cotto but being that he has looked like **** against a c-level fighter in jennings and albeit the cut looked like **** against clottey im going to were the smart money is at....everyone that watches boxing out here in the lower east side in ny say the same thing...cotto is not the same fighter and they are cotto fans...u think that atlas,steward,bert sugar and others are talking out there ass when they say that cotto just doesnt seem to be the same fighter...these dudes been around the game for decades and seen the best but ppl question them when they say something....stop with the im nervosu **** and this and that...be a real boxing fan and realize that this fight was made because its a name fighter who seems to be on the downside of his career which then opens the door to more big money fights...pac vs floyd at cowboys stadium sounds like an easy 200 million.....cotto vs floyd makes good money but not pac vs floyd money...this is a business and cotto just happens to be the perfect way to sell a fight with mayweather vs pac
     
  12. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and for you that said he never had problem making 130 read this....
    He also had a hard time meeting the 130-pound limit during his rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez last year, and was fortunate enough to eke out a split decision against his durable Mexican nemesis.

    But all those harsh battle with the weight is all behind him now.

    Mahirap talaga `yung hindi ka kakain. Malaking epekto
    iyon pag-dating
    sa fight, especially kung dikdikan ang laban. Disadvantage talaga pag nagre-reduce ka.
    – Manny Pacquiao
    The 30-year-old Filipino, considered as the world’s top pound-for-pound fighter, is enjoying the luxury of eating a full meal today without any consideration about the weight issue.

    Pacquiao even bared that he needed to have his daily intake of food in order not to lose weight.
     
  13. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what cathcweight did they fight in beside jones fighting a washed up fighter that came out of retirement in trinidad
     
  14. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he fought hearns at 145 and hagler at 160....that doesnt seem like catchweights to me
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    yup pacquiao was already having problems making 130 in his rematch with barrera and marquez. but it doesn't mean he is as big a guy as cotto. he was only 138 in his fight with hatton and could still make 135 if he had to. the bold part is a proof that he is not a natural welter and has to be reminded to eat or else he would lose weight.