Pac - Martinez is the only fight that makes any sense!

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  1. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac is the 154lb champ and he cant defend it unless its at 150? Thats BS
     
    juanitoboxing, Nov 23, 2010
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  2. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL at pac fans being afraid of Pac actually having a competitive fight. Look, pac has been blowing guys out of the water left and right.....

    The only guys who present any challenge are floyd(wont fight him without blood test) and sergio (wont fight him drained)

    Anyone else gets their ass whipped vs Pac.... I dont want to see another blowout, i want to see a competitive fight

    So pac needs to choose between a blood tests, or fighting an undrained opponent
     
    VanillaKilla, Nov 23, 2010
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  3. TheRoadWarrior4

    TheRoadWarrior4 Active Member Full Member

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    Why did nobody give Mosley a chance, yet Pac clearly ducked him? And wasn't Oscar OLDER as well as more drained than when Floyd fought him?
     
    TheRoadWarrior4, Nov 23, 2010
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  4. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar was older... but he had fought mayweather 1 fight before...
    Also pac blew him out, mayweather went close, many thought DLH won

    As for the draining, Pac moved up 10 pounds, DLH moved down 10

    Its no ones fault but DLH's that he ****ed up cutting weight
     
    VanillaKilla, Nov 23, 2010
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  5. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mosley said he couldn't do less then 147.. no deal was made.

    Same as mayweather saying he wont fight pac without special rules.. Is floyd ducking?
     
    VanillaKilla, Nov 23, 2010
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  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For a voluntary defence a champion can make any stipulation he wants, I don't like it either but there you go.
     
    BoxingFanNo1, Nov 23, 2010
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  7. deadmoroz

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    Pacquiao doesn't belong to 154
     
    deadmoroz, Nov 23, 2010
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  8. JUSTAFIGHTFAN

    JUSTAFIGHTFAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He can just vacate it just like Martinez.

    As for the fight, the guy's is just too big and something being imposed on Pac to pull him down on his extraordinary achievements so far.

    Floyd's the only option for another legacy fight, the rest would just would just be deserving easy fights and should be 147 below
     
    JUSTAFIGHTFAN, Nov 23, 2010
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  9. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac just fought a guy @ 150 that he supposedly dominated, and took a lot of damage in doing so.

    I guarantee that Pac vacates the 154 belt and never fights above 147 again.
     
    ceebz, Nov 23, 2010
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  10. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac puts a major hurting on anyone at 147 other than floyd, no competition.

    Floyd dosent want to fight him.... So who should he fight for a competitive fight???

    Clottey and Margarito were his easy fights.... Lets see him have a challenge
     
    VanillaKilla, Nov 23, 2010
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  11. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what exactly do you define as major damage?
     
    VanillaKilla, Nov 23, 2010
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  12. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You didn't see it in Pac's face during the post-fight interviews. The guy was hurting.

    Look, it's just speculation on my part, but I don't think Pac wants any part of any fight north of 147 again.
     
    ceebz, Nov 23, 2010
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  13. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont buy the whole Martinez is too big thing. Margarito is bigger than Martinez but you are right he can vacate it if he wants to and it wouldn't change the admiration I got for Pac's achievements. Floyd is THE choice that makes sense but to say that the 154lbs champ cant fight Martinez (#2 or #3 P4P) at the limit diminishes from any reign he may have at 154. In other words, Pac doesnt belong at that weight maybe he should stay at WW.
     
    juanitoboxing, Nov 23, 2010
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  14. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If I'm Pac's advisor, the goal is to get Floyd in the ring. If Floyd is a no-go for May, I go after Berto. If Floyd is a no-go for Nov-Dec, go after the Maidana-Khan-Bradley-Alexander winner.

    If Floyd is still a no-go in 2012, unify the belts and call it a career.
     
    ceebz, Nov 23, 2010
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  15. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that we have just been spoiled by PAC...

    In my opinion, if you have a 12 round fight against a TOP world fighter, and you are NOT HURTING after the press conference.. It was either

    A. a shitty fight with neither fighter wanting to exchange

    B. a shitty opponent which got outclassed

    Either way it was a blowout by PAC. Im sure margarito was in much more pain, seeing as his face looked like it was about to pop open like a zit
     
    VanillaKilla, Nov 23, 2010
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