Pac ..seven weight classes is very strange

Divac knows about that. He just like to spew garbage. GIGO.

 

pac's weight

mab2 - 130
jmm2 - 129
diaz - 134.25
dlh - 142
hatton - 138
cotto - 144
clottey - 145.75

16.5 pounds in 2 whole years. and you all knew he was having a hard time draining himself to 130. you knew he spent extra hours covered in towels and blankets to make weight against mab.

from the time he fought gatti June 2005 where he weighed 139 pounds to when he fought dlh May 5, 2007, he gained 11 pounds.

between may and pac, only a 5 pound difference in a span of 2 years.

if you turn it back 4 years, mayweather has gained 16 pounds and pac gained 17.5.


rjj gained almost 20 pounds in half a year to fight ruiz. you also suspect him of doping? you don't because the amyweathers didnt say so right? no because you don't hate him like you hate pac right?

 

I've discussed Pac's fightnight weights earlier in the thread, I'm not going to be bothered doing it again.

Look at the pictures I put up of both Pac and Marquez.

At featherweight Marquez actually looks to have thicker bone structure. Marquez looks to be the naturally bigger man in that link to the picture I posted.

Then at 130 lbs they look pretty comparable as far as size.

When Marquez and Pacquiao rematched eachother, they were within 3 lbs of eachother unofficially, yet when you look at both of them at Welter, Pac has nothing but lean mass while Marquez just looks thick.......the same kind of bloated thickness that Duran and Chavez carried over when they climbed a third or 4th weight class.

Duran, Chavez, JMM, Pacquiao......they're all around the same weight stature.........Pacquiao is actually the smallest of the 4, yet he carries the weight at welter better than any of them.:think

 

On the issue of Benitez, most fighters climb the scales and lose a little something along the way with each climb.

Benitez was at his best at 140-147 lbs......anything past that he was inconsistent and not as elusive.......and we're talking about a skill fighter where it is easier to climb the scales the more skilled you are.

You can name any of the modern day fighters.....from Duran, Arguello, Leonard, Hearns, Chavez, Whitaker, etc.....
Their first couple of weight classes are the ones they excel the most in......then they lose just a little bit of everything with each weight climb.

Pac seems to have defied the laws of physiology on his tenure.

 

Duran, Chavez, JMM, Pacquiao......they're all around the same weight stature.........Pacquiao is actually the smallest of the 4, yet he carries the weight at welter better than any of them.:think[/quote]

JMM dont belong on this group. He cannot carry the weight because He is mediocre, what is there hard to understand?:think

 

You guys really think that Manny would take PEDs for the Clottey fight? after being accused of drug use everyday leading up to the fight?

I know the Pac Team is stupid sometimes but what kind of ****** would continue injecting himself with A-Side Meth(whatever) in that situation?

 

I've debated this weigh issue many times, 16 lbs in a span of 2 years for a fighter Pacquiao's size is a big deal.

I understand Pac was dehydrating to make weight.....so to was MAB, JMM, and Morales......yet you dont see them not losing a step when they have climbed divisions.

......all these great fighters have drained themselves to make weight, Duran, Chavez, MAB, Morales, JMM, you name them and they've probably have had a hard time making a specific weight.........yet when they climb up to the next division, and are no longer dehydrating themselves as severely, something is still lost....quickness, speed, stamina, power, strenghth, and in most cases a little bit of all of that.

 

Pac has been talking about retirement even before the PED allegations against him came out.

 

IF he's a PED user, why would he stop?

From what I hear, Texas did'nt even give a post fight drug test.....dont know for sure if thats true, but even if pac took a pee afterward, by that time he'd have cycled off the PED's so they would'nt show on the test.

 

Also strange, Hank Armstrong holding 3 world titles in the original 8 weight divisions at the same time. Strange, right TS?

Armstrong also winning in higher weight divisions without actually gaining enough weight for those divisions. Strange, right TS?

Fighters back then fighting 10-20 times a year. Strange, right TS?

 

Ha ha ha, ease up on the old guy, bro.

He probably loses sleep every night thinking about how Pacquiao has upended his favorite fighter. :rofl

See what I mean? :hey

Because Pacquiao has seemingly "defied the laws of physiology, something the other modern day fighters" didn't exactly do, this bitter old fogey is trying to beat the drums to the Mayweathers' tune. Everyone knows this guy's agenda, it really is a waste of time trying to reply.

Must be really hard to relive both Pacquiao-Marquez fights in one's mind and then see how far Pacquiao has achieved.


:nut

 

so pac can't gain the weight pbf did in the same span because of his body frame? that's your whole explanation?

i daresay that pac works harder in training than all of the names you mentioned. you think pac is as fast now as he was at 126? of course he'll develop more power, he's gaining meaningful muscle so he is supposed to generate more force in his punches. pac has lost a bit of speed from going up in weight. but he is still faster than the fighters he has faced in the higher weights so it may seem that pac hasnt lost any speed.

another thing is his training revolves around speed, which is the very first thing you lose by gaining too much weight. that's why he isnt as slow as other fighters moving up in weight.

 

JMM dont belong on this group. He cannot carry the weight because He is mediocre, what is there hard to understand?:think[/quote]


More the reason to be suspicious of Pac.......this should seal it then.....

Pac got schooled by a mediocre fighter, then goes on a PED rampage to dominate divisions above the one he got schooled at by the mediocre fighter.

What else is there to discuss?
This does it, Pac's guilty!:deal

 

More the reason to be suspicious of Pac.......this should seal it then.....

Pac got schooled by a mediocre fighter, then goes on a PED rampage to dominate divisions above the one he got schooled at by the mediocre fighter.

What else is there to discuss?
This does it, Pac's guilty!:deal[/quote]

:roll::rofl

He showed Pac how to laid on the mat nicely 4 times on their fights:rofl

 

More the reason to be suspicious of Pac.......this should seal it then.....

Pac got schooled by a mediocre fighter, then goes on a PED rampage to dominate divisions above the one he got schooled at by the mediocre fighter.

What else is there to discuss?
This does it, Pac's guilty!:deal[/quote]

jmm won more rounds than pac, sure. schooled? wait, weren't you the one who said after pac faced jmm that pac was exposed and that jmm already showed the blueprint of beating pac?

that was you right?

weird. pac has only lost once and the one who beat him fought nothing like jmm.

you knw what, i somehow understand why you're ***** is still sore. you've been proven wrong over and over and over again and the only thing you can cling on to now is the PEDs issue.

you were one of the guys who said that juan diaz would kill pac at 135 right? now after a few years clottey was a no-hope opponent for pac. funny how pac haters change, like pac fans.