Pac vs DLH at a catchweight of 132..Who wins?

The 112 lineal title Pac has was recognized by most Boxing Critics including the Rings.

Here's Too sharp Record:http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=3240&cat=boxer he got his 112 title from a Vacant slot.

The Pac that lost to Torrecampo is a Green & teenage Pac. The 17 yr old Pac then was undertrained & Under-nourished. You have to see how poor is a Beginner Boxers in the Philippines to get the Grasp of this. DLH has all the best Training for his Olympic Run for Gold & Babied by the Promoters early in his Pro Career. Pac has none of that. he becomes Champ by working hard & by pure natural talent. Now we're talking about a Green DLH vs 130 P4P, well trained & well nutritioned Pac. Pac will definetely beat DLH in this match up.

 

Yeah Johnson did. But the ring magazine held him at no. 1 at 112. Pac only at no. 2.

And this stuff about being linear title a complete nonsense. A linear title is somewhat of a de facto title. Being like an uncrowned champion. The definition of a linear title is with this:

Tyson becomes undisputed champ
DOuglas takes it
Holyfield takes it
Bowe did
Holy got it back
Moorer won it
Foreman won it, and during his time that he lost the titles one way or another outside the boxing ring, but never in a fight. So George is like the people's champion. He is considered a linear champ
Then Shannon Briggs beat him. Briggs is the linear champ. So on and so forth.

Pac is simply the WBC flyweight champ. No more no less.

And I know the backstory on that Torrecampo loss. It's more of being overconfident and undertrained. None of that undernourished/poor upbringing crap. Pac won 10 fights in a row. He undertrains and was very overconfident leading up to the fight. He was asked to shed the excess but he declined and entered the fight wearing a glove with bigger padding which is under the rules of GAB. How much the bigger gloves affected his power is up to debate. But you have to give credit to Torrecampo for he aimed and landed a shot to Pac's mug.

 

You are already wrong & couldn't admit you are wrong. So if Ring rates a fighter #1 he's a lineal Champ???? Are you gonna call Pac now as 130 lineal Champ coz he's rated #1 right now???? You just make yourself look stupid.

Just go back to what I said, Pac was Greater that DLH in terms on their 1st Title. Pac beat a Lineal Champ while DLH just beat a Chump. It's not even debatable.

 

What's stupid is that you are making conclusions without understanding what I've said. Where did I say that being rated no. 1 at Ring Mag is a linear champ? Youve already posted it before. Pac is considered linear champ even by the Ring. When was that? You've got any evidence? I own a lot of ring magazine's and never have I read that. They ranked Johnson no. 1. And that means he is considered by The Ring as the best fly in the world. No "lineal champ" crap apply.

Your case in comparing DLH and Pac on winning their first title is established, but you don't have to put more bull on it like being undernourished etc etc. And since when has it been a topic in this thread? Why put it up? Is it even relevant?

 

I just traced the lineage of Pac's WBC 112 title. It ends in 1973 when Miguel Canto takes the Vacant Crown. That's what you called Lineal.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9002&cat=boxer

 

So which one has value more Pac's 112 title he took from Sasakul or DLH's 130 title ove Bredahl???

 

Try to read my last post and read between the lines. You will already find an answer there.


Since when has Pac become a linear champ? Since when Sasakul has become linear champ? Or even Arbachakov. When the hell did he become linear champ? Has any of them unified the title and lost it outside the ring and not inside it?


Frankly, you seemed to be very slow on the uptake.

 

I already give you the answer & facts. Pac is Lineal Flyweight Champion & you can't change the facts. Did too sharp unified the titles??? I don't think so.

In the 1950s there's only one Flyweight Champ it's called just A World Champ, then in 1960s it became WBC, then WBA was born & more ABC titles after that. Make your research using Boxrec to educate yourself.

 

Here I traced a little farther where This WBC title ends.
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=10042&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=20555&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=85929&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=12627&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=16406&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=20552&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=12608&cat=boxer


Here you'll see where this WBC & WBA ends up with the Title World Flyweight Championship. You'll see Fighting Harada holding it for a short reign.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=11494&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9037&cat=boxer

Sugarshane, Learn to use Boxrec as a tool so you will not look like a fool!!!

 

You guys a bunch of dimwits...If Oscar goes down to 132...He will be carried off the stretcher against PAC...

If you know boxing and weight cutting and picks DLH?? You need to start learning because you know ****.

And Also read the thread title before posting stupidly

 

Oscar via KO. Oscar jumped betwen 130-135 so I take his experience at 135 into account too and IMO stylistically, someone with oscars reach, height, speed and power would just be too much for Pac.

 

Only shot Pacman has is nowadays trying to get DLH to drop so much weight.

Seriously though.. Pre 95 DLH would still win. MAB and Morales were much smaller, started smaller, and were on their way out. Sure DLH might have been green but being able to start his career at that weight, had a slender body and knew/still knows how to use it, and had a better defense than Barrera and Morales combined at any point in his career.

It won't be easy, but it would be a lot easier time than the worn down Barrera and Morales had.

DLH by clear UD.

 

I don't think DeLaHoya could make that weight.

 

Pac by ko :roll: