Pac vs. Katsidis?

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  1. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Buddy I have nothing against Katsidis . . . infact he earned my respect and admiration in his last fight. I'm just honestly stating how I see it . . . backed by facts.

    He is an exciting all out come forward fighter but Kats has never fought a puncher like Pac and he has only 22 fights. He lacks the experience and skill to survive such a war.

    I won't bother to explain . . . I want you to check the records of his last 10 opponents. Amonsot; Earl; Suwwunarit; Gonzales; Mosquera; Ganoy; Tebedu; Sor thanikul; Alvarez and Liendo.

    Now tell me who among these guys has a good and respectable K.O. percentage.

    :yep :good
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ganoy and believe me his recored is misleading. The dude can hit and by all reports he caught Rocky with some great shots on his way down.
     
  3. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if pac inflicts the same cuts that amonsot gave katsidis, it will be stopped and declared a tko. the only thing that prevented the doctor and/or the ref from stopping that fight was because katsidis was the "name" fighter on that one and amonsot was a relative nobody. we all know that pac is the biggest draw from 135 and will be the name fighter on this one.

    pac will not be trapped in the ropes receiving multiple shots to the head like amonsot did

    pac will put on more pressure than amonsot did

    pac's power may diminish a bit at 135 but it will surely be better than amonsot's power

    pac's head movement and footwork are better than amonsot by far

    my pick, pac by late on cuts. but pac may taste the canvass on this one too.

    but katsidis is young. and as most boxer's career they gain weight when they get older. there is a strong chance that katsidis will get a fight with pac at 135 but not in the next couple of years and he'll be lucky because pac would be past his peak by then
     
  4. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Dont get me wrong,i aint saying your a katsidis hater.Just think you are gathering most of your info from the his last fight as it was the only time most people other than aussies have seen him.Going on boxrec for his last opponents names and youtube for same clips of his recent few fights dont tell the picture..

    NOT SAYING YOU DID,BUT IN MOST CASES IM CORRECT.

    Also as mentioned by a fellow poster he has fought some real bangers one being renoy ganoy,whos record is very misleading.Ganoy is on a winning streak with his big scalp being a stoppage of former world titlelist robbie peden(dropped peden 3times in the bout).

    Ganoy i feel is a bigger hitter than pacman and who happens to be naturally bigger than pacman.

    Yes pacman is a great boxer and posseses alot of power but there are a shitload of bigger hitters than pacman in 135.

    But to be honest im doubting that any fightfan who hasnt seen katsidis asmuch as a few of the ozzie fightfans are going to give him much of a chance against manny.
     
  5. myk

    myk Active Member Full Member

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    Ganoy is a filipino who once lost to Pac's brother Bobby.
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Ganoy is a bigger hitter and naturally bigger? Nah nah :-( . . . you don't know what you're saying dude. :yep

    Ganoy stands at 5'5" and has 9 loses (5 by knockouts) before he met Kats. :D Pac can take this guy out in 3 rounds, he is in the level of a journeyman.

    As to bigger hitters than Pac at 135 . . . no arguement on that but I don't believe Kats is one of them.

    Experience will play a major factor here buddy. :good
     
  7. JustinD

    JustinD Member Full Member

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    You actually think Pac is a bigger puncher than Katsidis at 135?
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Katsidis will beat him. The size difference is too big, and Katsidis carries too much power for Pacquiao. It'd be a great ****ing fight, but only for about 8 rounds, before katsidis stops Pacman.
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you doubting Katsidis' chin, mate? Honestly, even if most of those weren't haven't got great knockout ratios, they can all bang. I've seen Earl a lot of times, and even though he has what, 12 KO's, he has a good amount of power.

    Someone like Earl is more heavy handed than Pacquiao, I think.

    anyway, Pacquiao is too much of a fighter. when he starts fighting Katsidis, he will suffer. He probably has a weaker chin, less power and is smaller. A boxer at 130lbs may beat Katsidis but a fighter won't.
     
  10. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    I think this is one way to lure Pac fighting at 135. Pacquiao is not ready yet in this division or even won't fit to it. Katsidis is too big for Manny. Pac would give Katsidis a tough fight though but he won't last 12 rounds.
     
  11. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think that makes that much of a difference when rating power.

    Ranee can whack, just even hearing his punches you can tell.

    Sure he is 5' 5 but have you seen him?? He has a very stocky build and has fought as high as welter, which Pac hasnt.

    Only arguement Im trying to make hear is that Ganoy is certainly physically bigger than Pac, or at least has shown he can hanlde the higher weight.
    Probably doesnt hit harder but he aint no where near as fast as Pac, so he may in fact be a more concussive hitter.

    Let me reinforce though COMPARING RANEE GANOY TO PAC IS LIKE COMPARING a 92 Civic to a 07 Camaro.
    Only arguement hear is about there physical size and relative punching power.
     
  12. psychopath

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    Nah . . . I see it as they're just about even. But speedwise it's gonna be 3 to 1 punches on Pac's advantage. When Pac went up to 126, he no longer takes out opponets with a single punch . . . it's the accumulation of punches.
     
  13. psychopath

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    Earl can bang alright, but having 12 K.O.s in 25 fights shows the guy doesn't have extra ordinary power. That's my point.

    Didn't you see Amonsot? The guy can bang too . . . but he doesn't have enough pop in his punches to put Kats down.

    And no I'm not doubting Kats chin . . . all I mean is Pac will have enough power to put him down. And you also have it the other way around . . . it is Kats who is too much of a fighter at this point. He is a raw boxer and it's him who will suffer once he starts coming forward against Pacquaio. :yep
     
  14. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm more worried about katsidis' skin that his chin
     
  15. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    What did I say? :yep

    KATS simply lucks the skills and experience at this point.