Pac vs Marg is a disgrace.

My biggest problem with this fight is that it disrupts a clash between Margarito and Cotto which is a far more appropriate fight;all things considered. My other qualm is the 154 belt being on the line which is a complete joke. Pac-Margo will still be a stylistic pleasure with an intriguing back story(s);so at the end of the day I support the fight.

 

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Yep its kinda, but I just want Pac to do a massive beating to Cheato that's why I half-accept it.

 

when was the last time a boxer became a crusader of the sport while active?

Manny's job is to fight and get paid for his effort. What's wrong with fighting Margo who's licensed to fight anyway. you're barking at the wrong tree. you should be tearing up the Texas commission not Manny, whose job is to fight whoever is lined up for him by his promoter. The one who's taking the risk of losing money because many fans question the morality of this fight.

There are no better alternative out there. Marquez hasn't proven his mettle in the higher weights. Manny will not fight below 147. Bradley and Alexander are still green and unproven and worse yet no fan base to speak of. Same tihing goes with Berto. Manny will not fight them for less money because they're still nobody.

Now with Williams and Martinez, the size difference is so insane it's not even worth mentioning. The fight won't be fair to any of them any weight they fight.

 

there's a reason xylocane is banned in many states....look it up

 

Yea because freezing hands so that a fight doesn't end early is the same as loading your gloves with plaster and trying to seriously harm your opponent. Also, one guy has been caught with his pants down while the other has only been accused.

Jesus christ.

 

I just replied to one of the WBC members through e-mail:

Mr.Flores:

I am talking about the upcoming fight between pacquiao and margarito. I just don't understand why the most dignified and historically significant sanctioning body would put up a title match between these two, especially at a catchweight. A champion has a range weight range that he's meant to protect, Super Welterweight is 147-154. margarito disgraced himself and embarrassed boxing. pacquiao hasn't even done anything at 154 to deserve fighting for a vacant belt. It's just not a good look for the sport to have what half of the Boxing world consider to be its best fighting margarito for the vacant "true" belt.

It's a slap to the face for all the other 154'er contenders that are ranked by the mighty WBC.

Thank you for your time,

LEON

 

atsch dood hasn't been a lightweight in AGES

pac's a great fighter, but all the catchweight bull**** needs to stop

 

got this from another thread


What is the official word on Xylocaine? Is it illegal in the United States? Is it banned by boxing or any of the State Athletic Commissions? Why does Floyd Mayweather take it? After contacting the appropriate authoritative entities, I have the answers to these questions and more.



US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

Lenny Brown Sacramento, CA “Is Xylocaine approved by the FDA?”

I spoke today with a representative from the FDA via their Drug Information line. I asked them if Xylocaine was illegal or banned in this country. The representative said there are no bans on this drug. The representative also said that there would be no reason for individual states to make this drug illegal especially if its FDA approved. However, if this drug is administered by an I.V. or through injections then it must be done under the direct supervision of a licensed medical professional.

World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

One of the world’s leading authorities on anti-doping, WADA is the primary source for which drugs are banned in sports or athletic competitions worldwide. According to WADA, via GlobalDRO.com, “None of the ingredients in this brand (Xylocaine) are currently included on the WADA Prohibited List”. This means that Xylocaine is not banned by WADA.

US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

Mandy Craig Sacramento, CA “Does the USADA ban Xylocaine?”

The USADA has a Drug Reference line where you can contact them via telephone and specifically ask them about any drug. When I called them yesterday, I spoke directly with their telephone doctor of the day. First, I must say that it was very informative being able to talk to a USADA doctor about this drug and the potential side effects. Anyhow, the doctor said that Xylocaine is legal for boxers to take via injection into the hands. He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC)

In a conversation that I had with Keith Kizer, about the use of Xylocaine in the state of Nevada, Keith said that because “It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA”; it’s not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine.

“We don’t want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.”

Conclusion

As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC. In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweather’s use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesn’t use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he won’t get into any trouble. However, this doesn’t mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

Xylocaine, in most methods of usage, needs to be supervised by a licensed medical professional due to potential serious side effects like an abnormal heartbeat. In addition to potential side effects, there are also some long-term effects like dementia that could be experienced.

Regardless of the side effects and the legal use of this drug, it still remains debated whether this drug gives Floyd an advantage or not. It’s clear that there would be an advantage on fight day if he couldn’t experience any pain in his brittle hands but is this drug a real advantage during training?

According to BlueCross/Blue Shield – “Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are prescription medications, like anabolic steroids and stimulants, as well as sports supplements and growth hormones that some athletes take to improve their energy, stamina and power while training or competing.”

According to The Mayo Clinic – “Performance-enhancing drugs and supplements are used to boost athletic performance, ward off fatigue and enhance physical appearance. They're also taken to increase muscle mass and strength.”

Xylocaine might be legal but it remains highly controversial. Does the legal allowance of this drug override the performance enhancements that this drug provides?

Although, I think this drug is controversial and a PED, the very fact that it's still legal, according to those who I spoke with, makes me wrong for previously thinking it was illegal. I was misinformed, like a lot of people, when we were told that this drug was illegal. I was wrong, and unlike Floyd Mayweather, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. If I'm going to hold others accountable then I have to hold myself accountable too. However, If anyone has any other evidence that this drug is banned in "49" states, then please contact me so I can verify it and check with the proper authorities.

 

Interesting...

http://twitter.com/mlmarley/status/22729655945

 

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You are correct... this is very interesting...:hat

 

If Mayweather doesn't fight Pac in the spring of 2011, I'm guessing that all of the negotiation particulars will come to light. Will be interesting to hear what the Floyd fans will have to say if Pac did indeed agree to no cut off date for random testing.

 

Respect for pac for fighting margarito, it's a high-risk , low reward fight, but fighting in a catchweight.. that's total BSatsch

 

Man...What risk?...It's bout as risky as me playing with a kitten....Arum let Cotto get the the **** beaten outta him...cause he talked about leaving Top Rank....E-Z fight for Manny.:good

 

Saying...and doing...is two different thingsatsch