Pac vs Mayweather advantages/disadvantages

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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    IMO.

    ....................Speed - =
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  2. kwyjibo

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    ....................Speed - Mayweather
    ......................Skills - Mayweather
    Style (same as skills) - Mayweather
    ...................Stance - Pacquiao
    ..................Stamina - Mayweather
    .......................Chin - Mayweather
    .....................Heart - Pacquiao
    ..............Experience - Mayweather
    ....................Reach - Mayweather
    ...........Height/Taller - Mayweather
    Quality of Opponents - Pacquiao*
    .......Ring Generalship - Mayweather
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pacquiao
    .......................Size - Mayweather
    .......................Age - Pacquiao
    ...................Weight - Mayweather
    ....................Power - Pacquiao

    * = can be debated
     
  3. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    i agree he doesnt open up unless pushed which i think Pac will do to him and i think we see a complete Floyd in this fight because Pac will bring it anything less could see Floyd come up short.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    You missed:

    Timing
    Defense
    Jab
    Footwork

    What it boils down to is Pacquaio has slight advantages in speed, stamina, power (more so in power). Mayweather has all the skill advantages and height/reach
     
  5. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    ....................Speed - Even
    ......................Skills - Mayweather
    Style (same as skills) - Mayweather
    ...................Stance - Pacquiao
    ..................Stamina - Even
    .......................Chin - Even
    .....................Heart - Even
    ..............Experience - Mayweather
    ....................Reach - Mayweather
    ...........Height/Taller - Mayweather
    Quality of Opponents - Pacquiao
    .......Ring Generalship - Mayweather
    .........Corner/Trainer - Even
    .......................Size - Mayweather
    .......................Age - Pacquiao
    ...................Weight - Mayweather
    ....................Power - Even
    ....................Timing - Mayweather
    ..................Defense - Mayweather
    ........................Jab - Mayweather
    ................Footwork - Pacquiao
    ...................Ring IQ - Mayweather
    ................Workrate - Pacquiao
    .............Adaptability - Mayweather
     
  6. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    That is just a simpleton way of looking at things!

    Mayweather was hurt by Chop Chop as well, so?

    If Mosley was a 147 pounder who hit a 130 pounder Mayweather, then your argument holds water.

    Pac fought JMM at the weight they are fighting at the time. You think 130 pounder JMM hits harder than Cotto then.
     
  7. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Both will have to be and give 100% in this bout if they are to win in my opinion. But yeah, we see the best Mayweather when he is pushed...Pacquiao will push him all the way, and thats why I think Mayweather can pull the victory off.
     
  8. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    and have yet to prove so, you're basis is solely on "I never seen him get tired" :roll:


    yeah Mr."ZOMG IF PAC TOOK THAT SHOT FROM MOSLEY NO DOUBT HE BEEN OUT OF IT FOR 10 SECONDS LONGER" :rofl


    nah it's because Floyd finally took some punishment so that means he has just as much heart as Pac does now huh :lol:

    WHAAAAAA....so are you going to admit right now that Oscar was the bigger man against Pacquiao?


    Sensing sarcasm..

    So you are basically admitting that if he wanted to Pac could cut to atleast to 140lbs.

    How much weight do you think Floyd could lose to?
     
  9. Uncle Rico

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    ....................Speed - Equal
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    So Floyd outscores Manny 13-6, with 6 evens. Expect the fight to result in similar proportions :good

    But come on Manny! Prove me wrong!!
     
  10. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    That was one of the things I looked at when I said Mayweather had more experience, that and he's from a boxing family where he's been involved in it all of his life.
     
  11. dftaylor

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    ....................Speed - Mayweather for single shots, Pac for combination punching
    ......................Skills - Mayweather
    Style (same as skills) - Mayweather
    ...................Stance - Pac
    ..................Stamina - Equal
    .......................Chin - Mayweather
    .....................Heart - Equal
    ..............Experience - Pac
    ....................Reach - Mayweather, I'd guess
    ...........Height/Taller - Mayweather
    Quality of Opponents - Pac
    .......Ring Generalship - Mayweather
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pac
    .......................Size - Mayweather
    .......................Age - Pac's younger
    ...................Weight - Mayweather
    ....................Power - Even, I'd think - Mayweather punches a lot harder than folks think
    ....................Timing - Mayweather
    ..................Defense - Mayweather
    ........................Jab - Pac
    ................Footwork - Even
    ...................Ring IQ - Mayweather
    ................Workrate - Pac
    ............Adaptability - Mayweather
     
  12. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    why are you guys giing the heart department to pac, especially as floyd hasnt been pushed that much and hasnt had to show it does not mean it isnt there

    his heart showed when he was rocked by mosley and then he dominated the very same round, knowing full well he hadnt recoverd and still walked him down

    the question is what is pac going to do when maywether walks him down.

    im expecting a similar fight to the floyd NDOU fight or maybe gatti fight

    also how has pac got the better stance when he is off balance when he is off balance in a sequence anyone who got eyes can see that
     
  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    So true. With Floyd, you just get the feeling that there's nothing in the ring, that he hasn't got the tools to deal with. We're quick to over look this fact, simply because we've never seen Floyd in that many difficult situations. Rarely does he ever put himself in those problematic circumstances; thus giving many the false (and ridiculous) impression that he's a *****.

    Floyd's a natural born fighter.
     
  14. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    pac has the better jab? are you sure when he doesnt even throw it, i probably agree with your post the most apart froim this and the fact tyhat you have pac down as better stance
     
  15. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    To be fair it's something that I think is hard to judge, perhaps people think his style of giving his all shows heart but I don't think I would agree with that.

    Both have the ability to dig deep when it's needed.
     
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