Pac vs Mayweather advantages/disadvantages

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  1. kd_helix

    kd_helix oooh la la.. Full Member

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    Pac/Mayweather advantages/disadvantages:

    ....................Speed - pac
    ......................Skills - may
    Style (same as skills) -may
    ...................Stance - pac
    ..................Stamina - pac
    .......................Chin - pac
    .....................Heart - pac
    ..............Experience - even
    ....................Reach - may
    ...........Height/Taller - may
    Quality of Opponents - pac
    .......Ring Generalship - may
    .........Corner/Trainer - pac
    .......................Size - may
    .......................Age - pac
    ...................Weight - may
    ....................Power - pac
    ....................Timing - may
    ..................Defense - may
    ........................Jab - may
    ................Footwork - even
    ...................Ring IQ - may
    ................Workrate - pac by a mile
    .............Adaptability -may

    pac=10 may=12 even=2

    how about, courage? who got courage?
     
  2. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    ....................Speed - Even
    ......................Skills - Floyd
    Style (same as skills) - Floyd
    ...................Stance - Pac
    ..................Stamina - Even
    .......................Chin - Pac
    .....................Heart - Pac
    ..............Experience - Even
    ....................Reach - Floyd
    ...........Height/Taller - Floyd
    Quality of Opponents - Pac
    .......Ring Generalship - Floyd
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pac
    .......................Size - Floyd
    .......................Age - Pac
    ...................Weight - Floyd
    ....................Power - Pac
    ....................Timing - Floyd
    ..................Defense - Floyd
    ........................Jab - Floyd
    ................Footwork - Pac
    ...................Ring IQ - Floyd
    ................Workrate - Pac
    .............Adaptability - Floyd
     
  3. Kavgenik

    Kavgenik ESB Belt Holder Full Member

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    ....................Speed - Mayweather
    ......................Skills - Mayweather
    Style (same as skills) - Mayweather
    ...................Stance - Pacquiao
    ..................Stamina - even
    .......................Chin - even
    .....................Heart - Pacquiao
    ..............Experience - even
    ....................Reach - Mayweather
    ...........Height/Taller - Mayweather (small margin)
    Quality of Opponents - Even
    .......Ring Generalship - Mayweather
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pacquiao
    .......................Size - Even
    .......................Age - Pacquiao
    ...................Weight - Even
    ....................Power - Pacquiao
    ....................Timing - Mayweather
    ..................Defense - Mayweather
    ........................Jab - Mayweather
    ................Footwork - Mayweather
    ...................Ring IQ - Mayweather
    ................Workrate - Pacquiao
    .............Adaptability -Mayweather
     
  4. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    ....................Speed - even
    ......................Skills - Mayweather
    Style (same as skills) - Pacquiao
    ...................Stance - Mayweather
    ..................Stamina - Mayweather
    .......................Chin - Mayweather
    .....................Heart - Pacquiao
    ..............Experience - Mayweather
    ....................Reach - Mayweather
    ...........Height/Taller - Mayweather
    Quality of Opponents - Pacquiao
    .......Ring Generalship - Mayweather
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pacquiao
    .......................Size - Mayweather
    .......................Age - Mayweather
    ...................Weight - Mayweather
    ....................Power - Pacquiao
    ....................Timing - Mayweather
    ..................Defense - Mayweather
    ........................Jab - Mayweather
    ................Footwork - Mayweather
    ...................Ring IQ - Mayweather
    ................Workrate - Pacquiao
    .............Adaptability - Mayweather

    Boy does it look like a wipeout when you put it this way.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    People like to talk about how Floyd doesn't hit as hard as Cotto, but they'll be surprised at how EFFECTIVE Floyd's offense will be against emmanuel. Apart of Floyd's offense is to destroy his opponent's weapon or take away their best punches. Floyd throws nearly every punch better, this doesn't mean harder.

    emmanuel's fireworks are very space sensitive. He needs room to unload. This is why I think Floyd will be in the pocket sometime during this fight to smother and do bodywork emmanuel.

    emmanuel's offense hurts you faster. See Hatton.

    Floyd definitely has heart. He still kept fighting with his left hand even though he hurt it against Carlos Hernandez. Someone who's lacking in heart is Clottey. Clottey just shelled up against Margarito because he THOUGHT his hand was broken. Floyd stood in the pocket against Castillo to fight inside in the eleventh round when he felt the scorecards favored Castillo. When has he ever lost his focus after being hit hard? Never
     
  6. Diggersan

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    ....................Speed - Pacquaio
    ......................Skills - Mayweather
    Style (same as skills) - Pacquiao
    ...................Stance - Mayweather
    ..................Stamina - Pacquiao
    .......................Chin - even
    .....................Heart - Pacquiao
    ..............Experience - even
    ....................Reach - Mayweather
    ...........Height/Taller - Mayweather
    Quality of Opponents - Pacquiao
    .......Ring Generalship - Mayweather
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pacquiao
    .......................Size - Mayweather
    .......................Age - Pacquiao
    ...................Weight - Mayweather
    ....................Power - Pacquiao
    ....................Timing - Mayweather
    ..................Defense - Mayweather
    ........................Jab - Mayweather
    ................Footwork - even
    ................Workrate - Pacquiao
    .............Adaptability - Mayweather
     
  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you figure that Pac has more stamina? When have you ever seen Mayweather fatigued?

    Also, just because Pac has been beaten up, and busted more, doesn't mean that he has more heart, he just has less skill.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    ....................Speed - Handspeed even, footspeed Pac
    ......................Skills - Floyd
    Style (same as skills) - Even (style and skills is really very different imo)
    ...................Stance - Pac
    ..................Stamina - Even
    .......................Chin - Even
    .....................Heart - Pac
    ..............Experience - Floyd
    ....................Reach - Floyd
    ...........Height/Taller - Floyd
    Quality of Opponents - Pac
    .......Ring Generalship - Floyd
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pac
    .......................Size - Floyd
    .......................Age - Age Pac, Ring age Floyd
    ...................Weight - Floyd
    ....................Power - Pac
    ....................Timing - Pac
    ..................Defense - Floyd
    ........................Jab - Floyd
    ................Footwork - Pac
    ...................Ring IQ - Floyd
    ................Workrate - Pac
    .............Adaptability - Floyd
     
  9. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I appreciate your neutral analysis and this is fair other than giving Pacquiao the edge on timing. I don't agree with footwork either but that is definitely arguable.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac has the best timing in the sport. See the KO shot he landed on Hatton right as Hatton was coming in. The first KD when he timed his right hook just as Hatton was cocking back his left hand and then ducked under it. How he ducked and threw his lead left time and time again just as Cotto would step in to a jab.

    Also that left hand counter he lands right on the button that staggers Marquez in the 10th, when he ducks under his left hook, that was just perfect timing.

    Pac's timing is unbelievable.


    The only thing I would change is that I gave Pac the edge in age, but in terms of ring age Floyd has the edge cause Pac has been a pro since he is 15 years old and has way more pro fights and alot of wars.
     
  11. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I associate timing with accuracy and there is nobody in the sport at a high level more accurate than PBF. Pac throws a lot of punches so it's easy to sit and point out great shots and praise his timing. In reality, there is no comparison.
     
  12. ....................Speed - Even
    ......................Skills - Money
    Style (same as skills) - Even
    ...................Stance - Pacman
    ..................Stamina - Pacman
    .......................Chin - Pacman
    .....................Heart - Pacman
    ..............Experience - Pacman
    ....................Reach - Money
    ...........Height/Taller - Money
    Quality of Opponents - Pacman
    .......Ring Generalship - Even
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pacman
    .......................Size - Money
    .......................Age - Pacman
    ...................Weight - Money
    ....................Power - Pacman
    ....................Timing - Money
    ..................Defense - Money
    ........................Jab - Even
    ................Footwork - Even
    ...................Ring IQ - Money
    ................Workrate - Pacman
    .............Adaptability - Money
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    So because Pac throws 1200 punches against Clottey, that automatically means he has better stamina? :lol:




    My opinion, never claimed it to be fact.



    Again, just because Pac's been in more wars because of how he fights it means that he has more heart?





    I've always said he was bigger but being bigger isn't the only factor when you are nothing more than a punching bag.



    What? Pac at 135 weighed 147 :lol:

    Floyd weighed 152 two weeks out from the Marquez fight.




    Pac could go to 140, but I dont think he wants to, he's tired of cutting weight.

    I'm not sure, the most I know he's ever cut was 9lbs. He could possibly do more. Im not sure, he likely can't make 140 anymore.
     
  14. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rather give this to the guy that already shown it many times inside the ring than assuming that the other guy also has the same amount of heart and guts but only he wasn't fully tested.

    There's no more questions with the time proven guy while there's still a lot of questions with the guy yet to be fully tested.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Having heart has nothing to do with being tested.
     
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