Pac vs the best at 135-140 instead of diaz, DLH or hatton

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 4life, Sep 1, 2009.


  1. 4life

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    What would your reaction be? I notice pac is getting a lot of flack for not fighting the "best 135-140" has to offer. With the exception of JMM (at 135) I dont think anybody from 135-140 lbs can even touch him. Not valero, bradley, casamayor, j. diaz...nobody. Had he not taken the DLH hatton fights, would you give him credit for fighting those guys??

    Just want to hear out your take on it.
     
  2. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he'd be accused of ducking those he didnt fight. Its pretty common here.
     
  3. filipinagirl

    filipinagirl Member Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton was linear champion at 140. The only other good fight at that weight maybe Bradly.
     
  4. pijo

    pijo Feed the Pope Full Member

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    He did fight the best at 140 in Hatton. Also, DLH, no one give him a chance regardless of if Hoya was weight drained but as soon as he demolishes them people change their opinion.
     
  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    exactly. he fought the best at 140, fought a titlest (admittedly a weak one) in his debut at 135 and fought a "huge" oscar. **** man, i guess he could hop into his delorian and take on sugar ray robinson if you want to
     
  6. 4life

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    Yeah. My point is had pac stayed at 135 and 140, everybody would say he is ducking the big fights in Mayweather, Cotto or mosley.
     
  7. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    THE DOUBLE STANDARD BURNS DONT IT :rofl
     
  8. 4life

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    I somewhat agree with you. Pac however is still fighting a bigger opponent, while floyd is fighting and undermatched, overblown lightweight :huh.
     
  9. ybfake

    ybfake Active Member Full Member

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    With the fighters you mentioned I would throw in Nate Campbell, kendall holt. I am not saying that any of these guys would have beaten Pac but I do think they would have provided better challenges and erased the fact that Pac fought fighters that were only tailor made for him in his last three fights.
     
  10. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes but nobody knew that till the fight happened. Now if Pac did the same to those guys you mentioned, it will be the same BS all over again.
     
  11. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that Hatton was a tremendous win for Pac but DLH wasnt, it was a money maker. Anyone in Pacs shoes would have done the same thing I dont give him credit but who am I? The fuker is making millions now and thats more important than credibility in todays boxing.
     
  12. MALCOLMW

    MALCOLMW New Member Full Member

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    Im not a pacquaio fanatic i liked him when he was the underdog but no one from 135-140 beats him but marquez but joan guzman takes him the distance and nate cambell gives him a tough fight but he knocks out cambell in a tough fight also devon alexander gives him a tough fight
     
  13. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Bradley gives him a tougher fight then Campbell.
    Khan, whom he spars with, would give him some trouble too.
    Urango would not be light work.
    Diaz gives anybody trouble.

    But fighting Cotto is far far more challenging then any two of those guys put together.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no , hatton was #1 at 140 when they fought.
    the dlh win is a very respected one. against a much bigger man.
    these are the fights he should have taken. (if risking himself by going that high)
    i think he was 143 on the night of his last 130 fight - marquez.
    maybe the david diaz was a good choice (gave pac a belt)
    but maybe he could have chosen better.
    marquez is more proven now at 135 , but who cares ?
    pac proved himself above 135. you can see the diaz fight as a tune-up fight that also extended pac's belt collection and proved that he is still very good if not more at 135.
    if someone moves up in weight and beats a reigning 'champion' in his higher weight in his first fight there - what is bad in it ?
     
  15. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he would be anyone on the 135 lbs. right now.

    He beat a contender like Diaz and has beaten current lightweight champ JMM. He did a good choice by going up to 140 and fighting Hatton (the champion) and also by beating a much bigger man like DLH.