Pac vs Tszyu @ 140

:good Agreed
Stevenson was a great AMATUER.
Tommy was the first one that came to mind when he was talking about great right hands.

 

or a Hawk by the name of Julian...

 

i reckon pac would roll with the best at 140, as would tszyu. a prime tszyu would be a serious challenge for any fighter, but pac is just too damn quick. Pac by UD.

 

id root for tszyu of course hes russian like me but idk i think kosta would catch Him But manny would be able to outbox em tho

 

i had a discussion with a couple of boxing fans on youtube, they all pick pac over Chavez, but most say its a toss up between Tszyu and pac, they all underrate chaves in a ****ed up way.

 

I disagree I think Marquez has become underrated since the loss to Mayweather.Tszyu hits a lot harder and is stronger but Id say Marquez is definitly the better boxer.
I think this would be a wild fight of the year type but the differance will be Mannys speed(although Tszyu speed is underrated) I can see both guys going down but Tszyu wouldnt see some of these punches coming and Manny would take him out in 8

 

I thought Hector won that fight.
BUt it was close i might be bias,I was in Jail with Hector I was a trustee and hooked him up with extra juices. There was a warning sign on the Door of his Cell it said "deputies" beware this inmate is a world ranked professianal boxer.

 

I think Tszyu poses a lot of problems for Pac to tell you the truth but probably not more then what Pac will pose for him.

Pac's intensity and stamina will be the difference IMO...but I think has some hairy moments early on. Kostya was hella accurate and would find more spots to land on Manny then anyone else has above 135 so far. With how hard he hit that could really change the flow of the fight.

But again Manny is just so ridiculously fit...His ability to hold his speed, power and keep throwing in bunches late in fights will see Kostya under the pump when he inevitably gasses in the last 1/3.

 

That is so Backwards I got Chavez over pac but barely.
But I am pretty confident that Pac could handle Kostya

 

How does that work?

Pac is at the very least even money with Kostya, he probably deserves to be favorite...I cant see an argument for him over Chavez.

Youtube can be funny.

 

Tszyu wasn't very smart or disciplined vs Hatton. Or vs Vince Phillips. Those two guys were successful in luring him into a war. Pac would no doubt try to do the same. Tszyu's pride got the better of him in those two fights and he tried to slug it out with Hatton and Phillips and failed. His power loses alot of it's effectiveness when he doesn't have the space to unload his punches properly. Pac, unlike the speedsters Tszyu seemed so comfortable with, is a warrior and is not shy for a slugfest. Pac would be in his face all night, and if Tszyu makes the same mistake he made against Hatton or Phillips, he gets stopped late. Pac is much faster on the inside and his punches carry more power, and from the angles he can unload them.. he would have a field day. Tyszu would need to keep the distance, which he has a good judgement of when he chooses to box, and make Pac respect his power with counters as Pac comes in. That's his best chance to win, and he probably outboxes Pac and stops him mid-late rounds if he can do that.

 

this people at least had some knowledge, and didn't have 100 insults in each post, but they need to do their boxing homework, i ended up being the "ignorant" one, when i said they were seriously underrating Chavez, they basically claimed, "chavez fought 100 bums, he has no skills, very overrated" :-patsch

 

Although i am sure that Pac would beat Tszyu,I think their power is about the same or maybe a slight edge to Tszyu.

 

Zoo was old and done when he fought Hatton, not to mention Hatton pretty much cheated by holding the entire fight and throwing a low blow that could have got him DQ'd anywhere else besides England. Hell Zoo was actually in that fight up until the end.

I don't think Marquez gets under rated because of Mayweather, I don't hold that fight against him because he had no business fighting at 145. It was just a fight to make Mayweather look good and give Marquez a payday.

Marquez might have a slight edge in terms of boxing ability, but Zoo had the eraser where he could end the fight with one punch. Where Manny could be reckless coming in against Marquez, that would be dangerous against Kostya.

I also think Zoo could take a shot better than Marquez, and early in his career had better head movement than when he fought Judah and Hatton. Manny would not have an easy time landing more than probably one shot against him.

They are both great fighters so I think the fight could really go either way.

 

Honestly whats so complicated about this? Tszyu was a sturdy 140 with a murderous over the top right, you know the one JMM hits Pac with.

As for Chavez, from someone who cant see an argument for, there are alot who does.

Meldrick is not the fighter PAc is, never had the footwork and the power and the smarts. He was a bit faster but softer. He was winning that fight wide before the stoppage. Theres the template right there.